Bolt on skid steer mounting plate

kthompson · Dec 1, 2018

I need a skid steer mounting plate for an implement that bolts on. Can not use a weld on for need to be able to remove it and reinstall JD mounts if necessary. I would prefer to use "U" bolts around my implement frame with the nut end being able to have the nut end on the mounting plate. Will be used on a Maxilator hay grapple which it and the hay for full load will weigh about 1500 pounds. It does extend near seven feet in length.

This will be used with a New Holland quick attach fel. Right now believe will need to have local shop build it for have not found one made to bolt on. Have been advise the ones made to weld on will not work to drill and bolt on due to clearance issue. To me it looks like there would be room between towards the center of the mount and may need say angle iron welded onto the outside of the plate to also bolt there.

Thanks for your help.

Rustyiron · Dec 1, 2018

I think this calls for a for pics for a better explanation.
That's a pretty good load extended out a good bit for a u- bolt solution imho.

kthompson · Dec 1, 2018

Rusty, it is a square hay bale grapple. It lifts 10 small bales in almost a square pattern for loading. The manufacturer JD mounts are bolted on with U bolts and have no issue with it. Not worried about the bolt holding, just need to find mount designed to bolt on. The frame it will mount to is made of about 3 inch square tubing and two rows one near the top of the mounting area and one near the bottom. The JD mounts are two pieces and they used one U bolt on the top rail on each and one on the bottom rail on each of the JD mounts.

I feel the most I need to do is weld angle iron on the outside of the quick mount, drill it for U bolts and maybe one in the middle of the plate to help prevent plate flexing. Rather find one built for bolting to begin with than buy one and have to right off alter it. Might as well have one built in local shop. Been waiting two weeks on the company who built it to get me price of their mounting plate for it and will say has been during Thanksgiving but they reply slowly.

D2Cat · Dec 1, 2018

I see heavy duty quick attach brackets like this on Craig's List. Just the blanks, not with the bale spears like this example. Usually about $200. It looks like you could adapt it. ** New Hay Spear Skid Steer Loader ** - farm & garden - by owner - sale

ruffdog · Dec 1, 2018

All the videos had a skid picking up the bales and I think there are 3 reasons. The first is the weight, the next is being able to see what you are doing, and third, being able to skid sideways to accurately dock the bales.

Maxilator Accumagrapple - YouTube

kthompson · Dec 1, 2018

ruffdog said:
All the videos had a skid picking up the bales and I think there are 3 reasons. The first is the weight, the next is being able to see what you are doing, and third, being able to skid sideways to accurately dock the bales.

Maxilator Accumagrapple - YouTube

ruffdog, have no doubt skid steer does have vision of the hay bales advantage (in the field) but tractor can do the other two functions as well as a skid steer can. However the tractor has vision advantage when stacking the higher layers on truck or the trailer or in barn when stacking. Tractor also has advantage of being able to drive from field to field and not having to be hauled which would tie up a truck and trailer which is important when moving hundreds of bales. I believe the best machine for running an accumulator or grapple might be a rough terrain forklift or front end loader. As to all the videos using skid steer, need to look little more, many of tractors being used.

kthompson · Dec 1, 2018

D2Cat said:
I see heavy duty quick attach brackets like this on Craig's List. Just the blanks, not with the bale spears like this example. Usually about $200. It looks like you could adapt it. ** New Hay Spear Skid Steer Loader ** - farm & garden - by owner - sale

No doubt that would work. Thanks for the thought.

Xfaxman · Dec 2, 2018

Call the manufacturer and see if they will make the frame you need on their mount: Bale Spear Skid Steer Attachment | Jenkins Iron & Steel

kthompson · Dec 2, 2018

Guys, I really don't need a frame. If you will look at ruffdog's video post of the Maxilator that is what I need skid steer mount to go on. I can use a premade 1/2 inch to bolt on that has full plate, at worse will need to weld a piece of angle iron on the outside to also bolt through around the frame. I really do appreciate your suggestions. Really had hope to find a mount factory built for bolt on and not weld on for not sure that it will not end up need to reinstall the JD mounts for JD use.

I really do appreciate it and thanks for the thoughts. I had looked at a set of forks and thought the same thing about bolting that frame to my grapple but it adds to much weight.

ruffdog · Dec 2, 2018

So, instead of the JD mount, you need the ssqa plate mount?

MHarryE · Dec 2, 2018

Wish my Kuhn’s Mfg accumulator on my L6060 worked as nice as the Maxilator. Mine doesn’t have guides for each line of bales so if I don’t get them perfect a hook will come down on twine and snap it. Gives me an idea for a home mod this spring.

ddbackhoe · Dec 3, 2018

kthompson said:
I need a skid steer mounting plate for an implement that bolts on. Can not use a weld on for need to be able to remove it and reinstall JD mounts if necessary. I would prefer to use "U" bolts around my implement frame with the nut end being able to have the nut end on the mounting plate. Will be used on a Maxilator hay grapple which it and the hay for full load will weigh about 1500 pounds. It does extend near seven feet in length.

This will be used with a New Holland quick attach fel. Right now believe will need to have local shop build it for have not found one made to bolt on. Have been advise the ones made to weld on will not work to drill and bolt on due to clearance issue. To me it looks like there would be room between towards the center of the mount and may need say angle iron welded onto the outside of the plate to also bolt there.

Thanks for your help.

Which quick attach do you have on the tractor? The old wedge style?

ddbackhoe · Dec 3, 2018

MHarryE said:
Wish my Kuhn’s Mfg accumulator on my L6060 worked as nice as the Maxilator. Mine doesn’t have guides for each line of bales so if I don’t get them perfect a hook will come down on twine and snap it. Gives me an idea for a home mod this spring.

Not sure which brand, but I've used one with a New Holland SS. I didn't encounter that problem, but it sure would be aggravating.

Xfaxman · Dec 3, 2018

This is the strongest SSQA plate that I have seen, you could copy this design:

It has threaded bolt holes on the front:

Or you could buy the single hitch version: Eterra Hitch Attachment for Skid Steer Loader | Skid Steer Solutions

They used to sell the backplate by itself, but didn't see it listed now.

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kthompson · Dec 3, 2018

ruffdog..yes need the ssqa mount. Can find many weld on but no bolt ons.

kthompson · Dec 3, 2018

MHarryE said:
Wish my Kuhn’s Mfg accumulator on my L6060 worked as nice as the Maxilator. Mine doesn’t have guides for each line of bales so if I don’t get them perfect a hook will come down on twine and snap it. Gives me an idea for a home mod this spring.

We have used it with several hundred bales and yes it took a little while to get proficiency with it but it really works well. If you have trailer in proper position you can keep up with the baler. See if you can see the dividers on Rafter M out of Texas. They fold up with hyd cylinder so you can run with dividers down for aligning and then lift it clear, lift the dividers out of the way and lower to push bales tight and then lock with hooks for loading.
We are going to that model for our field and use the maxilator for the unloading and loading at the barn.

kthompson · Dec 3, 2018

I wonder why could not use a 1/2 plate, drill and tape it and then run bolts in it. Could grind off any bolt sticking through.

Xfaxman · Dec 3, 2018

Sounds good to me. May have to use plenty of bolts to clamp the frame to the plate, especially across the top.

kthompson · Dec 4, 2018

I really do appreciate each one's thoughts and suggestion. Did not find what I went looking for but did find I think good workable solution. Proves some times what we want is not obtainable but the solution is. Can not ask for more.

KT

kthompson · Mar 6, 2019

Update: bought mount from Titan and the first one was defective in size but they replaced it quickly and easy on my end. Pleased with the new mount and their service. Would buy from them again.

Used 2 inch by 3/8 inch welding it on the ends of the quick connect mount. Did mount it with "U" bolts the factory used to mount the John Deere quick connect mounts. They are 1/2" in diameter. Have not used the attachment with hay yet but did test it will the attachment and same weight load on furthermost point from the quick connect.

Did not notice any flexing of the mount. If flexing is detected will install bolts through the Titan plate with plate to reinforce that plate and then bolting around the attachment center frame member. Believe we are in great shape as we did match factory specs and load tested when completed.

Thanks to each one's contribution. I did not get pictures but will do so in next few days and post. Sent it to nephew to be testing with hay before taking pictures entered my mind.