bottom plow newbie help

[SmokyMtnMan]

thanks, Beenthere. I may need to paste your post on the dash of tractor!
I only have postion control on tractor, not draft. I should have just waited and got a one bottom instead of two bottom I guess, but was anxious. Really all i wanted to do was break up new ground for a pumpkin patch and also plow for a medium size vegetable garden to get it ready for roto-tiller yet to be purchased.
only plowing I had done before was with Jack and Jill (two mules) many years ago.
my tractor is Kubota 4610 by the way. here's photo

 

[Inspector507]

SmokyMtnMan
Nice Tractor /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

 

[pennwalk]

<font color=blue>I really think I should take it back just to show them how good their help is</font color=blue>

I think you have to decide if you want to make a point or get some work done. My local TSC isn't much better and I really don't think they want to hear about it. Think of it as a plow kit. TSC is turning into kind of a do it yourself place. One reason to go back to the store might be to see if they can give you a photo copy the assembly instructions. If you bought the plow at a full service dealer it would have probably cost a lot more. It looks like a 15 min job to assemble it correctly which means it would take me half a day./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif If you fix it you can head for the fields and get some well deserved seat time./w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif

Chris

 

[markcg2000]

I was thinking the same way... get it put together right and get on with the fun ... err work.

I believe you can take one of the plows blades off if you find that 2-bottom is too much. I don't know though, that tractor of yours looks like it'll probably laugh at that thought /w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif

 

[Mosey]

Don,

"oh......and that is a 14 pt plow and it is definitely made by KK"

This is strange. I’m not doubting you, but I am doubting the TSC you went to. I sent an email to sales@kingkutter.com (which I got from the their web site, www.kingkutter.com) asking if they sell moldboard plows. Here’s the answer I got:

"We do not make the moldboard plows, the tsc stores once carried another vendors equipment and maybe that was the plow they had at that time."

I don’t know what’s going on with your TSC, but they must have taken a King Kutter label off of something and put it on the plow! It’s not a Wallace either, because it’s a different shade of red and on the Wallace the 3pt attaching bracket (which is upside down on yours) is red, but on yours it’s black.

 

[SmokyMtnMan]

Well, guys, it was a little more involved than just 'reversing the pto brackets"! I had every manual and parts description for bottom plows i could find online printed out and lying on ground beside me. I went to 2 neighbors farms who had bottom plows and couldn't find anything quite like this one i've got.
The brackets were totally different and the arm running from toplink bracket back to rear of plow was slightly bent in middle.....i am guessing it was to make the arm flush against the plow to be bolted on. But when i turned it one way, it wouldn't fit flush against the toplink bracket, turned the other way, wasn't flush against the rear of plow.
The flanges that the U-bolts at the front of bracket held down were strange too. one side was straight up and down, the other was at a slight angle.
Was really frustrating, mainly because I kept thinking I shouldn't be the one to have to do this.
But.as someone stated.....maybe TSC is just a do it yourself firm now and maybe I would have paid more for a plow from a full service dealer. But whatever the case, I've never been one to complain or make a scene....never even sent food back or complained in a restaurant before.......but I must be getting old and stubborn. Just seems I see a lot lately where customer service is a thing of the past......pay huge sums of money for a product and get very little helpful service. Seems that's a trend. I'm not sure if TSC is just a do it yourself firm now....or if they just can't good help and could care less.
anyway, I stopped my bitching and whining long enough to try the plow out. And it works great...sliced that packed red clay soil open like it was hot butter! I ca'nt believe how my bota 4610 HST pulled that sucker through either. I would have to feather the throttle some and it would act like stalling once in awhile but that was because the operator couldn't figure out the proper settings
I had the rear plow doing just fine but the front plow wasn't digging down as much....nothing i could do with adjustments seem to fix that........but when dropping down in a rut like someone described on here......it was great!...cut down about 14 inches.......kind of felt a little spooky on the minor slopes when i dropped down too..........my angle inclinometer showed 20 degrees a time or two....made my knees weak.
i'll post pics of new plowed ground later
thanks all

 

[pennwalk]

Smokey Mountain Man,

That sounds just great. Definitly high quality seat time. Thats what we are all shooting for. I'd love to see your pictures.

Chris

 

[SmokyMtnMan]

on the bottom of my plow is stamped..."Gallipolis, Ohio"..which is same place the KK tiller is made.

 

[SmokyMtnMan]

just a 'plow' rookie looking for comments, suggestions, critiicism or help.
is this how it's suppose to look?

 

[SmokyMtnMan]

view from rear....
this is the lowest position i can get the RIGHT side of plow....is that because when you drop your RIGHT FRONT wheels in rut you've just made that it levels the plow out?