Box blade damage

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Mud Mechanik

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Massey Ferguson 1660
Anyone else have this problem?
 

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   / Box blade damage #2  
Looks like someone ran into it when it wasn't on a tractor. Nothing a little fire and hammer can't fix...maybe alot of fire and a big hammer.
 
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Looks like someone ran into it when it wasn't on a tractor. Nothing a little fire and hammer can't fix...maybe alot of fire and a big hammer.

what he said...

you may not be able to get it perfect that way and if not and you are capable, you may want to cut the welds and straighten it on a heavy bench or anvil, then re-weld.

to answer your question though, no I have not had that problem, but plenty of similar things... especially at work where forklift drivers are a little less than careful around equipment. Straightened many conveyor frames, forklift backstops, guardrails, etc...
 
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Doesn't look like it happen while being on the tractor:confused: where's the Cat.Pins?
I never have bent the A-arms of the box, though I have bent the part the goes back to the rear because it was only a single pc of flat steal, I then weld change it out for a pc. of channel iron. ....
if your tractor did in fact does this I would ad some sort of cross bracing as well as changing out what looks to be a oc. of angle at the rear to 2 pc. going diagonal to the corner of cross rail, just as the one in the picture,
 

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   / Box blade damage #6  
I'm sure it can be fixed.
And can be reinforced. But that might lead to damaging something else next time.

I also can't help but wonder if it was bent while backing up somehow.......
Actually if so, someone was lucky not to wreck tractor parts. Or not.........

Maybe using the implement on too big a power source ?

Keep safe
Good luck
 
   / Box blade damage #7  
No doubt done by pushing backwards,lucky not to "bend" the three point or worse.
Can be fixed.
 
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A lighter weight implement like this is cheaper so either don't over use its ability or strengthen it before it becomes twisted. Cheaper is not usually better unless you use it as intended
 
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I bent this while pushing or attempting to push a 4 foot wide concrete sidewalk into a swimming pool, we are filling it in and I figured that the box blade would be better at this than the FEL, and I was wrong. I bought this light weight box blade for a much smaller tractor and since upgrading to the 60hp Massey I have not used it. I removed the cat pins before taking the picture due to one of them being bent and the blade was forced into the tire, not wanting to damage the tires I dropped it right where it was bent. Now Ive got to get the torch out and re-design the "A" frame as deepNdirt suggested.
 
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With 60 HP and a type 1 hitch, I'd also either re-do the draw pins using clevis types or think about trading it in on a heavier box blade.

Also, if you EVER think you might wanna try a quick hitch, I'd replace that lightweight angle coming up to the toplink area with square tube (or two angled ones as was suggested) and keep the space between the two verticals (where the toplink pin goes) clear so a QH hook can rise into the top pin. I have a couple old implements that'll need that mod before they'll be compatible with my quick hitch.

Just a thought... Steve
 
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I would use a torch with a rosebud tip and heat the sides of that support to pull them back where they once were. Some high heat on one side of a thick piece of metal can do amazing things.
 
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I would use a torch with a rosebud tip and heat the sides of that support to pull them back where they once were. Some high heat on one side of a thick piece of metal can do amazing things.
 
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Bent a Howse BB frame just like that backing up pushing snow... And hitting a big rock. Heat and a little shop work and it was back straight. Have used it now for two years since... No problem at all.
 
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A lighter weight implement like this is cheaper so either don't over use its ability or strengthen it before it becomes twisted. Cheaper is not usually better unless you use it as intended


"Cheaper is not usually better". Well that's only half right. Implements should be matched to the tractor. Put a real heavy duty 6' blade on a 25 hp tractor and either it won't be able to operate it, or something else will break, on the tractor. A super strong, expensive box blade on a CUT and it will do a terrible job because it will be poorly matched to the tractor and will not be able to effectively work the attachment.

Ken
 
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Wow.

Hard to visulize it bending enough to get to the tire without the lower pin ripping out of the 3PH arm or the box blade frame.

It looks like the damage was contained to the a-frame though. Shouldnt be too tough to fix.
 
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Wow.

Hard to visulize it bending enough to get to the tire without the lower pin ripping out of the 3PH arm or the box blade frame.

It looks like the damage was contained to the a-frame though. Shouldnt be too tough to fix.

I had just replaced the cat pins with a cat 2 pin that fits a cat 1 bolt hole in the implement and it bent at the smaller end, the top of the rake was barely touching the right rear tire on the tractor but I would not drive foreward and risk puncturing an expensive tire. I am trying to find an "A" frame that is pressed out of plate steel just like the ones on a Howse blade, but not having too much luck finding one.
 
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Here is some damage to a neighbor's 3PH disc that is similar to the OP's problem. It was repaired using a 3PH "A" frame and welding a 2 1/8" square tool bar to the front of the disc.

It is very strong now and has little chance of bending. Wish there was a photo of the finished project but the owner picked it up right after the repair and then sold it a few weeks later.

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Yep, did the same thing to my brush hog. This happened wile pushing backward. Just replace the lift arms and you'll be good to go.

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I'd consider it a cheap lesson, and not make it stronger. After I straightened mine out, I got much more cautious (and after hearing about how people have broken off cast parts on the rear..)
 
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Yep, I've seen that before. I know of someone who turned his A-frame on his boxblade into a pretzel behind his Kubota. Here is a picture of what I do with my rakes. I use steel tubing with flat bar tabs welded on for the 3 point hook up. I would also look into adding a couple more tabs to the lower connection point so you have a clevis hitch, this will even out the stresses on the lower pins vs. using single tabs. Hope this helps!
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