Brake Shoe Riveting.

[Desert Mike DIY]

An attempt to rivet new brake material to brake the shoes.

 

[Bob Rooks]

Nice video. You did good! :thumbsup:
I remember when I did that kind of work I started from the center and worked outward, and would use small screws and nuts to hold the lining in place until it could be riveted. Of course I had the privilege of having a shoe arcing machine and a riveting machine too. Plus the shoes and lining were much bigger which made them easier to handle. Small shoes like that are difficult to manage. It will be interesting to see how the JB Weld keeps the ends down.

 

[Desert Mike DIY]

Nice video.
I remember when I did that kind of work I started from the center and worked outward, and would use small screws and nuts to hold the lining in place until it could be riveted. Of course I had the privilege of having a shoe arcing machine and a riveting machine too. Plus the shoes and lining were much bigger which made them easier to handle. Small shoes like that are difficult to manage. It will be interesting to see how the JB Weld keeps the ends down.

It will be interesting how the JB Weld holds up. Just applied it minutes ago. So noon tomorrow for disassembly. It's 90-95 in the garage so it will cure quicky.

My arching machine is a bench belt sander. Nice to have the correct tools. I think this will hold up ok.

 

[Desert Mike DIY]

The JB Weld did not hold. I did clean all of the shoes off with just brake cleaner. Should have also used acetone or even denatured alcohol. So I chipped off the glue from the shoes and the brake material. Once the brake cleaner dries off of the brake drum and brake housing, I'll test fit the shoe assembly to see how they fit the radius of the brake drum. Certainly the ends of the shoes will probably need to be ground down and chamfered some more.

 

[radios1]

I haven't seen riveted brake shoes for years!. now, they are glued on!.. rivets do nasty scoring to the drums when they contact, so you have to replace the shoes much sooner than on a glued shoe!..

 

[Desert Mike DIY]

I haven't seen riveted brake shoes for years!. now, they are glued on!.. rivets do nasty scoring to the drums when they contact, so you have to replace the shoes much sooner than on a glued shoe!..

On my 2004 Foton 254a, the shoes wear down to a point well above the rivets, then they stop making contact with the drums even with full outward adjustment. At least on that model and year, the pads wear out before any drum damage can occur. Can't speak for any other year and model.

 

[ptsg]

I've remade new brake bans for an old crawler tractor by riveting the brake material on the bands and it went well. I was very pleased with the results and worked perfectly.

A bit tricky to drill the brake material as the drill will grab just make a mess but doable.

 

[Desert Mike DIY]

I've remade new brake bans for an old crawler tractor by riveting the brake material on the bands and it went well. I was very pleased with the results and worked perfectly.

A bit tricky to drill the brake material as the drill will grab just make a mess but doable.

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I used a 3/8" Forstner bit. No grabbing at all. $10-$12. Glad to hear someone else has re-lined their brakes !!

 

[ptsg]

I used a 3/8" Forstner bit. No grabbing at all. $10-$12. Glad to hear someone else has re-lined their brakes !!

I had no choice. No parts available at all for a 1962 Toselli 28hp crawler tractor, whose company was bought by two or three other companies.

Thanks for the tip on the bit. I'll keep that in mind if I ever need to work on brake drums or band again.

 

[Desert Mike DIY]

Test drove the tractor a couple of times. The brakes received some adjustment this morning. Left brake is just a bit tighter than the right. As it wears in it will operate closer to the right brakes capability. Sure nice to have both sides working at the same time !!

 

[Bob Rooks]

Great news!

 

[Desert Mike DIY]

Great news!

Thanks Bob !! It's so nice to be able to stop on this very sloped property that I live on !!

I was going to do some weed mitigation around my house, but there is one fel cylinder dripping all day long. So once I fix that.....LOL !

 

[PILOON]

Older small aircraft used rivetted brake shoes a lot.
I still have my 'shoe kit' in a tool box somewhere.
LOL, never sell a tool as for sure once gone you'll need it.

 

[Desert Mike DIY]

Older small aircraft used rivetted brake shoes a lot.
I still have my 'shoe kit' in a tool box somewhere.
LOL, never sell a tool as for sure once gone you'll need it.

Exactly !!

 

[Desert Mike DIY]

After a little brake shoe wearing in and adjusting, now both brake pedals take about the same foot power to activate each brake. Stopping power has increased greatly up and down the steep driveway !!

After the FEL cylinder is repaired, I'll see if the new brake oil seals (80mm x 50 mm) are doing their job keeping the brake shoes dry !

It's so nice holding this tractor still on a hill !!

 

[Darvish]

Very interesting what type of adhesive did you wind up using behind the brake pads, if any?
I would speculate that an adhesive that had a little bit of give to it would be more likely to survive in that environment.

 

[Desert Mike DIY]

Very interesting what type of adhesive did you wind up using behind the brake pads, if any?
I would speculate that an adhesive that had a little bit of give to it would be more likely to survive in that environment.

Earlier in this thread I mentioned that no glue ended up being used. All these months later, the riveted pads are stopping the tractor nicely. I can lock the tires up solid on dirt. Haven't tried pavement yet.