Branson 4820H filter cross reference?

[CloverKnollFarms]

I know there are a couple threads here… but they are just running conversations, not truly cross references.
My tractor uses the EA00004647A for engine oil. I can buy it from my dealer I’m sure. But, is there a good cross reference? I picked up a couple gallons of Rotella T6 today. Thanks.

I’ll call the dealer to get a price. Having one shipped is ridiculous ($13)?.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

I can get all three Branson filters from Reed & Reed for $138 shipped, which seems pretty reasonable. I'll still call my dealer on Monday.

 

[Asteral]

you wont find a direct match to the transmission or hst filters, but don't mistake me you will find ones that fit on there but they wont work, the main reason being the size of the bypass in the hyd and hst filters are very important, and are generally nearly twice the size of the industry standard, if this large bypass is not present in these two filters you will burn up you hydraulic pumps.

I have been searching for an aftermarket option for some of my customer without any luck for nearly 8 years now, i would love to be able to offer an alternate filter for customers but Kukje had those filters under a monopoly making them for their own equipment, hopefully with the merger with tym this is going to change and give us more options for filtration and aftermarket suppliers, but as of now i would recommend sticking to OEM at least on the transmission systems.

Engine is fair game though, if your not sure and don't want to do a lot of hunting you can take the old filters up to NAPA and they can physically measure the threads and get you a matching filter that will fit, just make sure its a good reputable brand( PLEASE DO NOT USE FRAM)

 

[ptsg]

I'm using a Baldwin BT372-10 for the hydraulic filter (#TA00025525A). I was planing on getting the Mann filter WD 10 007 at first but there wasn't any stock. This is what the Mann Filter finder tool lists for my tractor.

So far I have no issues with this Baldwin filter. Although I can't say anything in cold weather because it doesn't get really that cold over here. I believe the cold weather is where the aftermarket filter issues arise and I've read that people in cold climates had starvation issues in cold weather because of the aftermarket filters.

 

[2515R Dude]

( PLEASE DO NOT USE FRAM)

Any reason why? Fram XG series has the best characteristics unless i misread them.

 

[Asteral]

Any reason why? Fram XG series has the best characteristics unless i misread them.

Design And Construction of the filter itself, Oil filters are made from several materials like steel, plastic, etc. Cheap and economy oil filters like fram use inferior-quality materials like plastic and have cardboard end discs that can not withstand long service intervals, repeated shocks, vibrations, and thermal cycles that these engine see. when it comes to working equipment spend the extra 2-7 bucks and get a better quality filter.

 

[Asteral]

I'm using a Baldwin BT372-10 for the hydraulic filter (#TA00025525A). I was planing on getting the Mann filter WD 10 007 at first but there wasn't any stock. This is what the Mann Filter finder tool lists for my tractor.

So far I have no issues with this Baldwin filter. Although I can't say anything in cold weather because it doesn't get really that cold over here. I believe the cold weather is where the aftermarket filter issues arise and I've read that people in cold climates had starvation issues in cold weather because of the aftermarket filters.

you are absolutely correct this is a more prevalent issue in the colder climates, but i have seen my share of failed hydraulic pumps here in Texas for the same reason, as with anything like this your mileage may vary, and you may never see an issue with aftermarket filters, i will say that on the older models this doesn't seem to be as much of an issue as the newer models they are producing now.

 

[ptsg]

you are absolutely correct this is a more prevalent issue in the colder climates, but i have seen my share of failed hydraulic pumps here in Texas for the same reason, as with anything like this your mileage may vary, and you may never see an issue with aftermarket filters, i will say that on the older models this doesn't seem to be as much of an issue as the newer models they are producing now.

I know there are other people here with the same tractor as mine, using the same filter with no issues, but like I said, doesn't get all that cold over here. 20-ish F is probably the most cold it gets and no one is really running their tractors with that kind of weather.

When someone is asking about filters, I do suggest OEM all the way on the hydraulic one. I may suggest the Baldwin or the Mann one but at their own risk.

I have a vague idea of reading somewhere in this forum a long time ago that the big hydraulic filter was made by Mann Filters, but then again, I have no way of proving or disproving that info.

When I changed mine to the Baldwin, I cut the original one but couldn't find any markings that could lead to a filter manufacturer. The Mann WD10007 does seem to be the closest match I've found though.

 

[2515R Dude]

inferior-quality materials like plastic and have cardboard end discs that can not withstand long service intervals, repeated shocks, vibrations, and thermal cycles that these engine see. when it comes to working equipment spend the extra 2-7 bucks and get a better quality filter.

1. The fiber end disc design used by Fram has a flawless track record of no tearing after a decade of oil filters cut open vs. numerous brands using metal end caps have torn. It's flexibility allows the media in extreme pressure to flex without tearing (two flexible surfaces connecting with each other flexing with each other vs. one flexible surfaces taking on the strain while connected to a non flexible surface). With all of this, Fram maintains it's high filtering efficiency and durability.

More food for thought is Honda uses the Fiber end disc Frams for one of their OEM filters. Toyota uses a filter from Denso that doesn't even have end caps or end discs.

The Fram design is fine (if not superior).
The Extra & Tough Guard filters are built with engineered media endcaps, more like felt than cardboard. Fram has been as good or better than anyone else in recent history, especially in the full synthetic media filters-older Ultras & Titaniums, and the Walmart exclusive Endurance.

2. I might read different articles, but currently fram is one of the best if not the best.

PPL just love bushing it with no reason. I guess 60 years ago it was true but things have changed since. Fram have been fine for decades, but internet rumors are hard to kill sometimes even with facts

 

[Asteral]

To be honest i haven't read any articles about how they build their filters, what i do know is i have seen dozens of units with failures across different brands with that brand filter being the cause over the last decade, ill take my experiences with their filters over articles about them any day, but that being said they may have changed since my last experiences with them and i may just be being biased but that's why i don't recommend them to anyone.