Loader Broke the loader

[NoTrespassing]

I can connect all 4 hoses.

good advice on taking the loader in with the tractor. It all fits on my trailer.

in the photo, the lever is in the detent position, and is unlocked. The lever releases from the detent position as usual and moves as it should, although pushing it forward, it feels a little mushy. Might be my imagination.

the lower arms remain at an angle that prevents the FEL from seating in the cradle. It feels like the lever doesn’t have enough travel to move the arms back.

I have mounted/unmounted the FEL a few hundred times since I bought it…


yes, except the rear arms don’t operate properly. I don’t think the lift cylinders are extending all the way.View attachment 763326

if the market wasn’t so wacky, I’d trade the thing in and get the next size up.

The last time I removed my loader I screwed up, it had been awhile and I was doing things out of order. I know you say you've done it a few hundred times and I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong but it can happen.

I know if I don't have my bucket curled just right I can't get the rear mounts to drop in place. It also hangs up on the brackets sometimes.

 

[NHBX]

Judging from the pic that lever looks a lot more than "slightly bent", my guess is there is more damage than you may think to the linkage under the plastic cover. good luck

 

[grsthegreat]

does your trsactor have the dial under the seat that messes with hydraulic control. ive seen my share of issues with this dial all the way to the slow position. on my tractor, if its turned all the way one way, no hydraulics work

 

[azbinder]

does your trsactor have the dial under the seat that messes with hydraulic control. ive seen my share of issues with this dial all the way to the slow position. on my tractor, if its turned all the way one way, no hydraulics work

That knob only controls the drop speed of the 3 pt hitch. Has nothing to do with the loader.

 

[mreatwork]

Yep, been down that road. Several times.

not being a smartass at all. I need all the help I can get, even the basics.

 

[KWentling]

Looks to me like all you need to do is pull the lever back like you're lifting the loader to get the arms in position. It looks like they are fully retracted in the picture. Note that they can move independently of each other as the side with the least resistance will move first. You can push or pull one side to equalize them.

If the lever got pushed hard enough in the incident you may have damaged the linkage under the plastic cover.

 

[kthompson]

No idea how your hose connections are designed, but can you switch the hoses to see if the issue stays with the same cyls or stays with the valve? It is possible to have damage the valve but it sure sounds like hoses are either not seated or not connected correctly. Done that more than once.

 

[JWR]

The last time I removed my loader I screwed up, it had been awhile and I was doing things out of order. I know you say you've done it a few hundred times and I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong but it can happen.

I know if I don't have my bucket curled just right I can't get the rear mounts to drop in place. It also hangs up on the brackets sometimes.

Yes, mine is a bit different being an LA211 on a BX2200 but I have those issues too. I am convinced mine was twisted or spindeled somehow by the previous owner. I have to purposely put a 2x4 under one corner of the bucket to try and level it enough to make the cradle connection and get the pin in on the left side. Usually several tries.

 

[JWR]

Looks to me like all you need to do is pull the lever back like you're lifting the loader to get the arms in position. It looks like they are fully retracted in the picture. Note that they can move independently of each other as the side with the least resistance will move first. You can push or pull one side to equalize them.

If the lever got pushed hard enough in the incident you may have damaged the linkage under the plastic cover.

KWentling may be on to something here --

1) I assume since you, the OP, have had the loader on and off many times you know that the vertical parts of the loader frame should/will move forwards and backwards easily by hand from the vertical angle? The one you show of the left side of the tractor appears to not be vertical and thus the pin can't be put in. As KW said, I'll reword it, those two loader frame near-vertical frame parts are on cylinders on the same hydraulic line -- so if you push one forward the other one moves backward rather easily. Can you not push/pull them until both are close to vertical allowing the pins to go in? You should be able to do that without the hyd lines to the tractor even connected. It is just normally a big help to use the active hydraulics to move the cylinders and curl, etc. assist without a bunch of lifting. So hard to picture the problem without being there! ... and ...

2) Have you lifted the boot/cover at the base of the joystick to inspect the loader valve controls/connections? You might have knocked something out of joint in the base of the joystick.

 

[KWentling]

KWentling may be on to something here --

1) I assume since you, the OP, have had the loader on and off many times you know that the vertical parts of the loader frame should/will move forwards and backwards easily by hand from the vertical angle? The one you show of the left side of the tractor appears to not be vertical and thus the pin can't be put in. As KW said, I'll reword it, those two loader frame near-vertical frame parts are on cylinders on the same hydraulic line -- so if you push one forward the other one moves backward rather easily. Can you not push/pull them until both are close to vertical allowing the pins to go in? You should be able to do that without the hyd lines to the tractor even connected. It is just normally a big help to use the active hydraulics to move the cylinders and curl, etc. assist without a bunch of lifting. So hard to picture the problem without being there! ... and ...

2) Have you lifted the boot/cover at the base of the joystick to inspect the loader valve controls/connections? You might have knocked something out of joint in the base of the joystick.

I'd like to see a picture showing the loader from a distance allowing us to see the condition of the "kickstand" and bucket. It does seem the side frames of the loader are pretty low, but I think it could still be mounted. Maybe the kickstands are bent?