Broken but is it broken?

[ch1ch2]

I was pushing some trees on the ground, one rolled and a limb came up and something went pop.
I see a fluid mist coming off the engine, still running. I shut it down and investigated.

The injection pump has hard lines going to the injectors and soft rubber lines going back to a hard line that attaches to the pump. The hard line back to the pump has a tee with plastic line going to the intake manifold. That is where to broke. The fluid was fuel.

What is it?
What does it do?
Does it need to be replaced?
Can I plug the ends?
I do not know anything about fuel injection.

 

[ch1ch2]

I have found this at messicks.
It shows item 17 where it tee's but does not show the line or the fitting into the intake manifold.

http://www.messicks.com/cas/60176?sectionId=58914&diagramId=60176_682419

 

[compact]

Sounds like the injector return line. Just need a new T boot and it should be good.

 

[ch1ch2]

Sounds like the injector return line. Just need a new T boot and it should be good.

The injector return line returns to the pump, does it not?
This is in the return line but tee's from the return line and goes to the intake manifold.
The fitting into the manifold broke and the line at the fitting broke.

 

[ch1ch2]

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Everyone is like me and clueless.
This could be a chance for someone to show off their knowledge.

 

[Rustyiron]

279 views
Everyone is like me and clueless.
This could be a chance for someone to show off their knowledge.

Knowledge? :laughing: not from me, but in these situations, I would just fix it back the way it was. It does not sound that involved.

 

[ch1ch2]

Knowledge? :laughing: not from me, but in these situations, I would just fix it back the way it was. It does not sound that involved.

That was my first thought.
But, I can't find the parts on any parts diagram.
And the one part that is listed on a diagram that these parts attach too is the Special tee, $113. That scares me, what about the broken missing parts that are missing from the diagram.

I am guessing that it has something to do with putting a mist of fuel in the intake. Maybe cold weather starting. I am planning on calling a Case dealer, they usually have some IH parts catalogs. If I can't find anything later next week I am going to try plugging it and see how it starts and runs.

I hope some of the guys here who worked on diesels back in the 80's have an idea.

 

[powerscol]

Try asking over at this place. Forums - Red Power Magazine Community
They were a big help on my sickle mower.

 

[Midniteoyl]

Is it the tee thats broke, or just the line/line fittings? If its just the line and fittings, I would think you could find some really cheap at any tractor/farm store.

 

[roadhunter]

pics?

 

[ch1ch2]

Is it the tee thats broke, or just the line/line fittings? If its just the line and fittings, I would think you could find some really cheap at any tractor/farm store.

It is the line and fittings, but....The end at the tee is a thread not found on most tee's. I am not sure were to find that thread with a hose barb to make my own line , but then comes the outer end.... It has an elbow fitting with a little bitty orifice, an incorporated into that was a blade connector and a wire that went around the fitting and into the intake manifold. I have no idea what that was for.
I will try to get pics.

 

[ch1ch2]

 

[ch1ch2]

The wire was stretched out some during disassembly.

 

[Agvg]

Seems you have broken the Thermostart cold start helper.

 

[Agvg]

 

[Midniteoyl]

Yep.. Thermostart.. or flamestart. They are $15 shipped on eBay: Heater Thermostat Glow Plug for IH International 484 584 585 684 685 784 785 884 | eBay

You just need to figure out the line to reconnect it to the fuel system tee.

 

[ch1ch2]

THANKS...ALOT!
Thanks to both of you, Agvg and Midniteoyl

It is nice to have friends in far away places.

Part ordered.

Until I get the line fixed, I can plug the intake and the line and run the tractor.

 

[ch1ch2]

I just looked it up on messicks now that I know what it is.
The glow plug is $58 and the tube is $145.
What did we do before ebay?

 

[Midniteoyl]

I just looked it up on messicks now that I know what it is.
The glow plug is $58 and the tube is $145.
What did we do before ebay?

I dunno.. But i bet if you msg the ebay seller, he just might have the tube, or know what you need to make your own.

 

[ch1ch2]

Great idea!
I will give it a try.