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MossRoad said:
We have outriggers! :) Well, almost. I need to get some more steel stock but these pictures show the idea.

1st picture is of the outriggers in what will be the normal mode of operation. Nice spread, feels sturdy. Looks like it will lift the unit about 14-16" off the ground.

2nd picture shows the bolt/pin configuration. Note the position of the cylinder pin in the top, inboard holes in the brackets. In this position, I get normal swing down and the outriggers will stand up verticle for transportation(see next picture and make note of the empty pin hole on the top, outboard hole).

3rd picture shows the outrigger in the vertical position when the pin is in the inboard hole in the brackets.

4th picture shows the cylinder pin moved to the outboard hole in the brackets. In this position, I can get way below level with the outrigger. I couldn't lift the jackstands high enough to show the final depth that the outriggers can go. I think it will be able to lift the unit about 2' off the ground in this position.

5th picture shows the problem with the cylinder pin in this position... they cannot be lifted high enough to get through tight spaces. There really was no altenative with the way I made it. So, I will just slip the pin out and move it to the outboard holes in the brackets if I need to go way beyond normal horizontal depth. I just couldn't figure out how to make it go vertical for transport AND be able to swing way past horozontal without actually bending the outriggers like the boom is bent. I will try it this way and see how well it does. If it isn't sufficient, I will cut the lst 18" off the outriggers and angle them downward. That would solve it, for sure. :cool:

Running totals:
Time = 38 hrs.
Approximate Cost = $420
Can't wait to see pictures of this baby in action. You may have already said, but what starting projects do you have waiting in the wings anything really big ?
 
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Wellll, I have a couple hundred small tree stumps to clear from an old farm field that we want to convert to a wildflower medow.

Some day we want to build a house on our property and I need to clear stumps from the building site and trench for electric, gas, phone, water from well, and house to outbuilding.

I haven't been able to work on it too much in the last week due to rain and my children's after school activities, but it is coming along nicely. :) I picked up an auto-darkening welding helmet and some more welding rod so I'm ready to go as soon as I get more time. :rolleyes:
 
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Here's a few pictures of this weekend's progress.

This is how it is working out... fine! :)

1st picture is an overall view from the front right side.

2nd picture is a side view with the boom curled up a bit. Note that much of those brackets at the joint between the boom and dipper stick will get cut off and discarded after final fit up and tests.

3rd picture shows the maximum swing to the right side. The left is the same. It is a tad over 120 degrees. Not too bad.

4th picture is a view of what will be under the operator. Shows the swing cylinders that will be covered by 1/4" diamond plate flooring.

5th picture shows the pivot assembly.

When I have the boom fully extended and step on the tow ring, the unit will tip the balance to the rear of the unit. This is good, because I will still have to add the floor plate, seat and hydraulic controls to the rear of the unit and the bucket and cylinders to the front. It is just about neutral. Once I put my butt in the seat and attach it to the tractor, I should have plenty of counterweight for full out reaches.

Also notice the 8" wheels under the unit. They will be attached to those legs sticking down from the main cross member. There will be a total of 4 wheels. They are rated at 300# each, and four of them should allow me to roll across the terrain fairly easily when the outriggers are up. They will lift off the ground as the outriggers are lowered.

Running totals:
Time = 42 hrs.
Approximate Cost = $450
 

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#344  
I'll also report that the $59.00 autodarkening welding helmet from Harbor Freight is the best thing since sliced bread. I don't know how the world survived before these things were invented! :D
 
   / Build A Backhoe For PT425... It Could Happen #345  
looking real good anxious to see a picture or pictures of it in action with a bucket of dirt in the bucket. yep those auto darkening hoods are nice , I got two Lincoln auto darkening helments I bought me one and the wife bought me one they were on sale . Im glad I didn't know the wife was getting me one and I wasn't about to take one of them back . That way I don't have to carry my hood from garrage to garrage.
 
   / Build A Backhoe For PT425... It Could Happen #346  
MossRoad said:
Here's a few pictures of this weekend's progress.

This is how it is working out... fine! :)

1st picture is an overall view from the front right side.

2nd picture is a side view with the boom curled up a bit. Note that much of those brackets at the joint between the boom and dipper stick will get cut off and discarded after final fit up and tests.

3rd picture shows the maximum swing to the right side. The left is the same. It is a tad over 120 degrees. Not too bad.

4th picture is a view of what will be under the operator. Shows the swing cylinders that will be covered by 1/4" diamond plate flooring.

5th picture shows the pivot assembly.

When I have the boom fully extended and step on the tow ring, the unit will tip the balance to the rear of the unit. This is good, because I will still have to add the floor plate, seat and hydraulic controls to the rear of the unit and the bucket and cylinders to the front. It is just about neutral. Once I put my butt in the seat and attach it to the tractor, I should have plenty of counterweight for full out reaches.

Also notice the 8" wheels under the unit. They will be attached to those legs sticking down from the main cross member. There will be a total of 4 wheels. They are rated at 300# each, and four of them should allow me to roll across the terrain fairly easily when the outriggers are up. They will lift off the ground as the outriggers are lowered.

Running totals:
Time = 42 hrs.
Approximate Cost = $450
Lookin good !!
 
   / Build A Backhoe For PT425... It Could Happen #347  
MossRoad said:
Here's a few pictures of this weekend's progress.

This is how it is working out... fine! :)

1st picture is an overall view from the front right side.

2nd picture is a side view with the boom curled up a bit. Note that much of those brackets at the joint between the boom and dipper stick will get cut off and discarded after final fit up and tests.

3rd picture shows the maximum swing to the right side. The left is the same. It is a tad over 120 degrees. Not too bad.

4th picture is a view of what will be under the operator. Shows the swing cylinders that will be covered by 1/4" diamond plate flooring.

5th picture shows the pivot assembly.

When I have the boom fully extended and step on the tow ring, the unit will tip the balance to the rear of the unit. This is good, because I will still have to add the floor plate, seat and hydraulic controls to the rear of the unit and the bucket and cylinders to the front. It is just about neutral. Once I put my butt in the seat and attach it to the tractor, I should have plenty of counterweight for full out reaches.

Also notice the 8" wheels under the unit. They will be attached to those legs sticking down from the main cross member. There will be a total of 4 wheels. They are rated at 300# each, and four of them should allow me to roll across the terrain fairly easily when the outriggers are up. They will lift off the ground as the outriggers are lowered.

Running totals:
Time = 42 hrs.
Approximate Cost = $450


David, from looking at the pictures, and you mentioning about 120 degrees of swing, I would think the front swing tabs should point more forward than aft. At the current angle, you can never get the 180 degrees of swing. It may require moving the back tabs out. I am having the same problem trying to find the right geomerty. I may use a curved front tab.
 
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#348  
I put the wheels on it last night. Man, that is a lot easier to roll than carry!!! :D

As suspected, when I extended the arm all the way out, the tail lifted off the ground. I stepped on the tail and it easily came down, so there is a very good balance there. I need to put a grease zerk in each wheel. I just used 5/8" bolts tacked to the leg stands for axles. Four of them make it roll pretty easy. Now I need to get the floor installed so I can plan out where I want my hydraulic controls. Then figure out the seating location.

Running totals:
Time = 43 hrs.
Approximate Cost = $450
 
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#349  
Picked up a seat at Rural King yesterday. $69.00 for a suspension seat. Not bad. Tacked it on. Feels nice.:)


Running totals:
Time = 43 hrs.
Approximate Cost = $520
 

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I picked up two massive hydraulic cylinders today. I believe they are 4" bore X at least 16" stroke. I haven't checked yet. They were free! :D

I will check the actual dimensions when I get home tonight. They may even be a bit too big. I'm pretty sure I can use one for the boom lift, as I have a pretty good amount of space available in the boom/swing bracket , but don't know if the other will fit for the dipper stick. I'll sure try to make it work, though. If they do, it saves me another $250 at least. Can't knock it. :)

My only concern would be that they are so big that they are too slow or so powerful that they will bend the boom if I hit an imovable object.
 

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