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Rockbadchild
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lots of people around if within flood zone they simply remove ground flood from their policy.
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dodge man
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Sorry, I didn’t notice you were from Canada. Carry on.
CloverKnollFarms
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Yes you can remove flood insurance… but that’s probably what you need in a flood plain
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If in a flood plain ... but where I am planning on building it is not a flood plain unless the next ice ages melts away its probably the last time water flowed at that elevation... if that house or that new barn gets flooded, at that point it will be the lease of my worry... if you'd see it with your own eyes you would understand, you don't need to be Einstein to figure that out.
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yes I saw this site but other then a topographic map I can't seem to find the actual flood map.
Yea, seems like a mess to figure out which office to point a finger at. 100 year, 500 year or we just made some cool lines on the map criterion. The climate change agenda may be plying a key role.
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It's a city zoning by law, it sound like they are the only governing body in this matter shouldn't be so bad to overturn.
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From my experience with building requests within protected zones, mapping, and the Ontario government, it's less than well informed people using data from unreliable sources, to enforce regulations because it's easier to say no, than to try to work it out for the applicant.
That said, we have built up areas in real flood zones near my area in central Ontario. As a long time volunteer firefighter, I've been to a lot of flooded homes, the same year after year. If flooding is a true risk where you're considering building, take it seriously.
But, after my investigation, the mapping that the Ontario government refers to for these serious determinations is very casual. I was told from within the government that: ".... summer students are hired to use the aerial photos to create the mapping..." [for later use]. Thus, well meaning, but low skilled people are making interpretations which really affect what you want to do, and then a bureaucrat uses those maps without further (qualified) interpretation, to apply the prevailing regulations for better or worse.
I did overcome the Lake Simcoe Conservation Authority, and had their refusal to allow my building overturned. I did that based upon their (I demanded) on site inspection, and review of topographic reality of the land. Based upon that success, I helped a friend with the permit for his garage. But, he is on the bitter edge of a flood zone, and I came to understand it was a matter of feet of location, and the answer would have been a hard no for him.
When you're dealing with the local authority, ask: Are they actually enforcing a regulation, in denying your request? Or, are they interpreting mapping, and making their own decision? If they are blindly enforcing a regulation, you've got a tough path ahead, as they have no motivation to be found to have broken a regulation, particularly when that parcel of land is the subject of a flood complaint in years to come. If they are interpreting, maybe reason can be added to the basis for the decision. Would they accept a berm around the affected area? Or, raise the base height of your barn?
That said, we have built up areas in real flood zones near my area in central Ontario. As a long time volunteer firefighter, I've been to a lot of flooded homes, the same year after year. If flooding is a true risk where you're considering building, take it seriously.
But, after my investigation, the mapping that the Ontario government refers to for these serious determinations is very casual. I was told from within the government that: ".... summer students are hired to use the aerial photos to create the mapping..." [for later use]. Thus, well meaning, but low skilled people are making interpretations which really affect what you want to do, and then a bureaucrat uses those maps without further (qualified) interpretation, to apply the prevailing regulations for better or worse.
I did overcome the Lake Simcoe Conservation Authority, and had their refusal to allow my building overturned. I did that based upon their (I demanded) on site inspection, and review of topographic reality of the land. Based upon that success, I helped a friend with the permit for his garage. But, he is on the bitter edge of a flood zone, and I came to understand it was a matter of feet of location, and the answer would have been a hard no for him.
When you're dealing with the local authority, ask: Are they actually enforcing a regulation, in denying your request? Or, are they interpreting mapping, and making their own decision? If they are blindly enforcing a regulation, you've got a tough path ahead, as they have no motivation to be found to have broken a regulation, particularly when that parcel of land is the subject of a flood complaint in years to come. If they are interpreting, maybe reason can be added to the basis for the decision. Would they accept a berm around the affected area? Or, raise the base height of your barn?