Building advice needed

[tile]

I'm new to the forum but have been lurking around for a while. I've found alot of info here and hopefully I'll get some help as well.

I live in central Florida and have 10 acres of which 6 is cleared. I'm wanting to build a barn to house my tractor, equipment, tools and other toys. I've decided to go with a building that's 40' x 48' with a 12' eave and a 3:12 pitch. I'm also going to pour a concrete slab for the building. What I can't decide on is the building structure itself. Many of the barns around here are pole barns but, there are a few metal buildings. I like the idea of a metal building but I'm worried about installing it. I have a concern with a pole barn because of the 6 x 6 wood frame structure. I know it's pressure treated but the water table in the area is rather high. At times during the year the water table may only be 2' below ground, this is Florida. There are also a ton of choices like insulation, overhangs roof panels, ridge vents and door sizes. I'd like to get some opinions from those of you that have barns and have put them up yourself or just have had them for years. What is your experience and what would you change about yours if you could. Obviously I have no experience with building barns and I just want to avoid some of those mistakes I'm bound to make.

I've included a pic of the spot we are going to put the barn.
Thanks

 

[tile]

I'm new to the forum but have been lurking around for a while. I've found alot of info here and hopefully I'll get some help as well.

I live in central Florida and have 10 acres of which 6 is cleared. I'm wanting to build a barn to house my tractor, equipment, tools and other toys. I've decided to go with a building that's 40' x 48' with a 12' eave and a 3:12 pitch. I'm also going to pour a concrete slab for the building. What I can't decide on is the building structure itself. Many of the barns around here are pole barns but, there are a few metal buildings. I like the idea of a metal building but I'm worried about installing it. I have a concern with a pole barn because of the 6 x 6 wood frame structure. I know it's pressure treated but the water table in the area is rather high. At times during the year the water table may only be 2' below ground, this is Florida. There are also a ton of choices like insulation, overhangs roof panels, ridge vents and door sizes. I'd like to get some opinions from those of you that have barns and have put them up yourself or just have had them for years. What is your experience and what would you change about yours if you could. Obviously I have no experience with building barns and I just want to avoid some of those mistakes I'm bound to make.

I've included a pic of the spot we are going to put the barn.
Thanks

 

[Farwell]

The one thing that I can address it the 6x6 posts going into the ground with a high water table. A plastic sleeve is sold that the 6x6 fits in side of to protect it from moisture. The information on the sleeve is on TBN some where, maybe someone on TBN can direct you to the thread.
Farwell

 

[Farwell]

The one thing that I can address it the 6x6 posts going into the ground with a high water table. A plastic sleeve is sold that the 6x6 fits in side of to protect it from moisture. The information on the sleeve is on TBN some where, maybe someone on TBN can direct you to the thread.
Farwell

 

[GuglioLS]

FWIW:

I have a 24 X 36 pole barn with galvanized corrugated steel skin.
It’s 24 years old and located in the dry southwest of New Mexico.
After 24 years the skin on the roof is rusty, the top ridge center beam is sagging.
The treated 4X4 posts buried directly into the dirt are holding up very well though.

The Lead washers under the nails leak and the trusses are stained and showing their age.

The next barn I build will be a Mueller Kit, All Steel with rubber washer self drilling screws. The roof panels will be painted (the ones with the 25 year warranty).
Turbine vents that I can close off in the winter, insulated with that aluminum bubble stuff. Two 12x12 Roll up doors

IMHO – I think the metal building kits would be very easy to erect especially if you have a tractor with a FEL and a Boom pole attached to it. They are bolt together and engineered for high winds.

Whatever you decide to build, have fun doing it and keep us posted.

Larry G

 

[GuglioLS]

FWIW:

I have a 24 X 36 pole barn with galvanized corrugated steel skin.
It’s 24 years old and located in the dry southwest of New Mexico.
After 24 years the skin on the roof is rusty, the top ridge center beam is sagging.
The treated 4X4 posts buried directly into the dirt are holding up very well though.

The Lead washers under the nails leak and the trusses are stained and showing their age.

The next barn I build will be a Mueller Kit, All Steel with rubber washer self drilling screws. The roof panels will be painted (the ones with the 25 year warranty).
Turbine vents that I can close off in the winter, insulated with that aluminum bubble stuff. Two 12x12 Roll up doors

IMHO – I think the metal building kits would be very easy to erect especially if you have a tractor with a FEL and a Boom pole attached to it. They are bolt together and engineered for high winds.

Whatever you decide to build, have fun doing it and keep us posted.

Larry G

 

[rambler]

I really like the idea of the metal arch buildings which have no frame - the ribbed skin is the frame - look like straight forward, if tedious bolting, way to go. However, they have gotten expensive!

Metal frame buildings here in MN are _way_ too expensive unless you get to a 60x90+ size building. I've seen some nice inexpensive metal-frame buildings here on this site, but they are not available up here - perhaps the snow load issue.

Wood rots off here in MN. Sometimes. As materials get cheaper & cheaper; and good treatments get outlawed; I get kinda worried about a wood pole building lasting. Several have had to replace poles of late in buildings around 20 years old - not a cheap thing to do.

Lot of buildings have a concrete poured foundation here, & the poles set on that. Buildings last forever - but concrete has gotten real expensive too, lot to pour!

One company makes a concrete pole with a bracket on top - you burry that, bolt on your 6x6 above ground for your pole buildings, and you have wonderful, long-lasting, wooden pole building. Can't think of the name of it now, dern it. Seems they are in the Ohio area, but distribute throught the country, perhaps through Wicks maybe?

Anyhow, seems like the best of all worlds for a mid-sized pole building. Chear with wood; long lasting with the concrete below grade.

--->Paul

 

[rambler]

I really like the idea of the metal arch buildings which have no frame - the ribbed skin is the frame - look like straight forward, if tedious bolting, way to go. However, they have gotten expensive!

Metal frame buildings here in MN are _way_ too expensive unless you get to a 60x90+ size building. I've seen some nice inexpensive metal-frame buildings here on this site, but they are not available up here - perhaps the snow load issue.

Wood rots off here in MN. Sometimes. As materials get cheaper & cheaper; and good treatments get outlawed; I get kinda worried about a wood pole building lasting. Several have had to replace poles of late in buildings around 20 years old - not a cheap thing to do.

Lot of buildings have a concrete poured foundation here, & the poles set on that. Buildings last forever - but concrete has gotten real expensive too, lot to pour!

One company makes a concrete pole with a bracket on top - you burry that, bolt on your 6x6 above ground for your pole buildings, and you have wonderful, long-lasting, wooden pole building. Can't think of the name of it now, dern it. Seems they are in the Ohio area, but distribute throught the country, perhaps through Wicks maybe?

Anyhow, seems like the best of all worlds for a mid-sized pole building. Chear with wood; long lasting with the concrete below grade.

--->Paul

 

[dullpain]

Perma Columns at www.permacolumn.com/index.htm

Or pour concrete slab, and conventional framing off slab.

 

[dullpain]

Perma Columns at www.permacolumn.com/index.htm

Or pour concrete slab, and conventional framing off slab.