Building my own Leaf/Grass Vacuum system

   / Building my own Leaf/Grass Vacuum system #31  
I hadn't thought about the dry grass problem. I pulled mine behind my Steiner while mowing, and then made a quick pass over the whole thing to get what I missed. The pickup chute is slightly smaller than my 60 inch mower. The last time, I just made a separate run instead of using it while mowing so I didn't have to worry about it being back there while mowing. I don't remember if it was wet or not, since the Steiner doesn't care one way or the other, and the blower pulverizes the stuff into almost nothing.
David from jax
 
   / Building my own Leaf/Grass Vacuum system #32  
a thought on unloading....
I have a 4x6 utility trailer with 2' high steel sides. For leaf season I have 4' plywood peices that I use to gain lots of capacity....I load the leaves and stomp them down then load more....gets very compacted. I make runs to the town leaf dump down here in Suburbia. After years of unolading 1,000 pounds of compacted leaves with a pitchfork, I wised up.

I take a 100 foot piece of rope...(one end has a loop) and lay the loop hanging over the front. I put the rest of the rope hanging over the tailgate. I load the trailer as normal then when I get to the dump I run the tag end of the long rope thru the loop then tie it off the the railroad tracks behind the dump area and pull the trailer forward. The whole load comes out as one "bale"....minimal calories expended.
See if you can't rig something to hold a rope to the top of the leaf trailer so you can tie off to a tree and drive away.
 
   / Building my own Leaf/Grass Vacuum system #33  
Good idea for people that have large leaves, or that rake the leaves, but in my case, if I were having a problem, a rope wouldn't work, as my vac pretty much pulverizes the leaves into powder, or slightly larger than that. Now a large belt or tarp done the same way would probably be wide enough to handle the stuff that my vac spits out, so would probably help others.
I think a sloped bed or a dump trailer would be a better choice, but we work with what we have, and if you don't have those, then the option of pulling it out is the next best thing.
David from jax
 
   / Building my own Leaf/Grass Vacuum system #34  
53gravely said:
I take a 100 foot piece of rope...(one end has a loop) and lay the loop hanging over the front. .

I am gonna try that if I ever use the grass catcher again. No rain her for a long time and none forecasted. Grass is looking kinda peeked.
 
   / Building my own Leaf/Grass Vacuum system #35  
Here is the nosecone of the "other" Giant Vac unit I have that has a hopper. I promised Nappy that I would take some pictures of it so he could fabricate a nosecone for the one he purchased from me. They made two sizes of the nosecones, 36" and 42", and this one is the larger one. Due to the size of the blower and the horsepower of the motor on that other blower, I would not hesitate to put at least 42" on it, and maybe think about putting a little bit more than that.


Nosecone002.jpg


David from jax
 
   / Building my own Leaf/Grass Vacuum system #36  
There are more pictures of the Giant Vac unit with the hopper and nosecone in my Photo Gallery if anyone is interested.
David from jax
 
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   / Building my own Leaf/Grass Vacuum system
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#37  
Progress report:

Sorry no pics for the moment, I'll be sure to get some soon.

-Discharge chute is 90% complete, just need to finish the square to 8" circle transition.

-The blower and motor are mounted on the 3PH carriage.

-The hoses and connection flanges are ready to hook up.

-The collection box is coming along, built the roof tonight, using the trac vac idea, open top with mesh, still need to make the "hood scoop" for it.
Used the corrugated metal for the roof, and 2x2 PT frame.
Tomorrow may get to the rear door/panel.

-Used rubber roofing membrane as the "gasket" where the discharge pipe enters the collection box. Cut the hole in the rubber slightly smaller than the 7" pipe size, so it has to squeeze through with a little stretching. Hopefully it will hold it tight enough so as not to need a mechanical fastener. The idea I have, is, to be able to remove the pipe for dumping, quickly and easily, and re-insert with same ease.

It will coming together now, as the sub-assemblies are finished.

Pics will follow...at some point. Thanks for your patience.
 
   / Building my own Leaf/Grass Vacuum system #39  
Your filter screen appears to be alot more open than mine, and I thought mine could use some smaller holes. Maybe you could put two layers instead of one and it would help keep the dust down.
A deflection shield on the inlet side of the box to turn the air stream down might also help.
How are you going to keep the wood from getting wet from the moisture in the leaves? Expoxy or just paint? Did you use marine grade plywood?
Just wondering...
David from jax
 
   / Building my own Leaf/Grass Vacuum system
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#40  
I'll use some waterproof deck-sealer on the plywood, then follow with some EZ Slide graphite paint on the interior sides and metal floor.

The collection box will be stored in my workshop, it's being built as a "take down" unit , so it will store flat when not in use. Let's say I have it assembled during the fall, I have room in Shop for it to be parked, out of the weather. I envision using this unit several times in the Spring, and then again from late Oct. through December for leaves, the rest of the time, it will be inside, de-assembled, dry, and stored. Should last for many years.

I'm not so much worried about dust as I'm trying to pick up leaves in the fall and thick grass in the spring, if a little bit escapes, no problem.

The total area of mesh opening might need to be larger, not smaller.
The principal behind how it works is a sudden pressure drop.
The leaves, grass, and particles "fall out" of the air stream due to sudden drop in velocity/pressure. Look closely at any TracVac, it's a simplistically great idea. No need for filtration, this is for bulk pick-up, not meant to vaccum down to micron levels. The more opening in the box, the more immediate the velocity drop, it's a bit counter-intuitive, the more openings, the more the debris will drop into the box.

I might even add some circular plastic vents high up on the back door , or at the back of the roof.

I will only add an interior deflector after testing and seeing a need for it.
Again, I want the air to go out of the box, not force it down into the pile where it may blow already collected material back to airborn.

The first run will certainly give me ideas for fine-tuning.

After having used a Trac Vac and examining how it worked, I think this will do a fair job.

More news to follow, this evening will be the back door construction.
 

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