Burning waste material on a concrete pad

[crash325]

Just for sh!ts and giggles..see how much a roll off will cost. Might look expensive at first, but but burning is quite time consuming and down right messy/nuisance for everyone involved. That old wood(and other junk) will not burn easy. Shop around, look at all disposal companies. Flexibility in drop off and pick up, on your part could help keep costs down. In this state, if your caught burning anything without a permit, you'll get a summons. If it's got shingle,tires, etc it will get real expensive.

call a local contractor, you'd be surprised what you can get rid of, for good old hard cash.

This is the best idea of all so far. If it is not an option.

Dig a fair sized hole, push the trash into it, after the burn just fill the hole with what came out of it. FIRE PERMIT??

 

[MarkV]

If your well is only 45 foot deep and you have any type of active agriculture or development in you area I would be much more worried about run off you can't control than burning some scrap wood. Of course thats my area. If you don't do a deep drilled well you run the risk of surface contamination.

MarkV

 

[Wacky]

If you do decide to burn make sure that you do not inhale the toxins from the treated lumber or other chemicals, or it blows the smoke to the neighbors.

 

[/pine]

If you decide to burn the stuff...an impromptu incinerator will burn much more efficiently than a pile on the ground etc...

A 55 gal drum is not very big but used right it can burn 3-4 times the material a fire of the same size on the ground can burn in the same time frame...

Also the hotter the fire the less ash/debris left over...

> Easy incinerator suggestion<

cut the top and bottom out of the drum...also cut a panel from the bottom side about 16" tall by about 20"-24" wide...with a few self tapping metal screws and some cheap hinges re-attach the panel...this is the damper/door

punch some holes around the drum about 8"-10" above the top of the door and run some rebars through...then force in some other bars perpendicular to form a grid to support the fire...

set the incinerator so the door/damper is facing directly into the prevailing wind (this is the key)...it is amazing how much just a sligh breeze will increase the burn rate when introduced fron underneath the fire...

ashes can be removed through the door...

be advised the more air (wind) the hotter the fire wil burn... too much wind and it will cause the rebars to really sag...

 

[flyingcow]

If you decide to burn the stuff...an impromptu incinerator will burn much more efficiently than a pile on the ground etc...

A 55 gal drum is not very big but used right it can burn 3-4 times the material a fire of the same size on the ground can burn in the same time frame...

Also the hotter the fire the less ash/debris left over...

> Easy incinerator suggestion<

cut the top and bottom out of the drum...also cut a panel from the bottom side about 16" tall by about 20"-24" wide...with a few self tapping metal screws and some cheap hinges re-attach the panel...this is the damper/door

punch some holes around the drum about 8"-10" above the top of the door and run some rebars through...then force in some other bars perpendicular to form a grid to support the fire...

set the incinerator so the door/damper is facing directly into the prevailing wind (this is the key)...it is amazing how much just a sligh breeze will increase the burn rate when introduced fron underneath the fire...

ashes can be removed through the door...

be advised the more air (wind) the hotter the fire wil burn... too much wind and it will cause the rebars to really sag...

Very good idea......way to get rid of a body.

But seriously, this works very well I've heard. Need a draft and a little wind.

 

[Mace Canute]

On the subject of easy incinerators...a few years back, a friend was using a short piece of heavy gauge culvert as a burning barrel and of course it didn't work very well. We knew what the problem was and one day we were poking through the scrap yard and came across a bunch of grills/guards for industrial sized fans. He bought a couple and we set one grill on top of a few concrete firepit blocks (leaving a couple of holes for draft), set the culvert on the grill and then set the last grill on top. The culvert section was roughly 2 1/2 to 3 feet long and roughly 3 1/2 feet across. The grills were a perfect (and I do mean perfect!) match up to the diameter of the culvert! Fires in this thing burn great and best of all, no fabrication was needed. While the top grill has warped from the heat, they were made from at least a quarter inch diameter wire and are still showing no signs of failing which I attribute to having small fires that don't generate so much heat that they "burn" the metal, yet still allow for complete combustion of all the burnables. The grills look just like this one.

 

[wrath]

A 4 yard dumpster filled to the rim is $375. I forget what a full length roller was but it was north of $1,000. If it can fit in a garbage bag I can get rid of it for $2.50/bag as long as it's under 30lbs.

It'd cost thousands to do what I need to do.

There hasn't been any agriculture in the area in 50 years but the county has yearly well tests for relatively cheap anyway. Mostly because of radium. The piece of property I own was the last piece of farmland. There is a person to the east that has some cows but that's about it. There is no one to the north for half a mile, it's all undeveloped woods. To the west is a subdivision but I own up to about 400' of the nearest house.

Burning is convenient because I can watch it from the garage or do other things in the yard at the same time. I wouldn't bother burning shingles or anything because it is too labor intensive to keep the temperature up so they don't smoke a lot.

There is some stuff in there that I don't want to leech into the water table. I wouldn't worry about it if it wasn't so close. And the area that is most convenient for me to burn (out of sight from neighbors and convenient to drag the consumables to) is probably within 10' of the water table.

I have an incinerator made out of a 275 gallon fuel oil tank. The problem is getting the stuff in it. Imagine someone's random discarded items that wasn't trash but they didn't want to pay to get rid of it. Now imagine 5-30 years along the edge of a woods.

 

[LarryD]

I think you will be far better off to figure out a way to collect the metal parts left behind.:thumbsup:

We had to construct a high power turn-up (read; strap a jet to the deck and fire it up.:shocked several years ago and the mix design was very expensive. There were several train cars of a processed shale that had to be brought in from Colorado to handle the heat, about 1400º behind the engines. I think parking garages also use a high temp concrete mix.

 

[CompactTractorFan]

A 4 yard dumpster filled to the rim is $375. I forget what a full length roller was but it was north of $1,000.

We got a 40yd a few years ago for about $500...I think...

 

[CompactTractorFan]

Now imagine 5-30 years along the edge of a woods.

I cringe at the thought...:thumbsup: :confused2: