Burning waste material on a concrete pad

   / Burning waste material on a concrete pad #31  
I have been on the engine when we responded out to illegal "controlled" burns. One thing I did not note above, is that hauling trash to the dump is one thing.

Having to load a mucky mess and haul it to the dump is another. I have had to put out the control burn, and bust up the pile to ensure it was out. Meanwhile, the Captain was writing the ticket that included a fine and appearance. Needless to say, 500 gallons of water later, that burn pile was not going to be fun to load/unload.

All good points. :thumbsup: No open burning here at all.
 
   / Burning waste material on a concrete pad #32  
Not sure where you are but here in the south and some areas of the west prescribed burns are common. If you really do live out in the country i suggest you just burn your property off totally. Put in some plow or bladed lines areound your property and enroll the help of the forestry commission or someone who is familliar with burning land and just torch the whole area off. You need to make sure the weather humidity, wind, moisture etc is correct to not get a wild fire. True you usually dont want junk piles to catch when you do this but they will only burn once and if fairly spread out they will mostlikely burn out that day. You may want to move them if there up next to any valuable timber as its likely a hot fire will either scortch the crown or steam the cambium, killing the tree, or at least top killing it. This seems like the most sensible solution to me, esp if you have multiple rolloffs to deal with. Again this does not solve the treated lumber situation. You will still need to call in your RX burn to the forestry commission in your area though.
 
   / Burning waste material on a concrete pad #33  
Bear Foot Farm said:
If you've got a FEL, why not just dig a hole and burn it, then cover it back up?

That was my thought. Been putting stuff in my hole for three years - either too dry and windy / too wet or if conditions are favorable I'm busy with something else - but "someday" :)
 
   / Burning waste material on a concrete pad #34  
Pour a pad and spread 6" of sand on top. The sand should keep enough of the heat away from the concrete and you can sift through it to pick out nails and crap once it's burnt
 
   / Burning waste material on a concrete pad #35  
Been putting stuff in my hole for three years - either too dry and windy / too wet or if conditions are favorable I'm busy with something else - but "someday"

I fill the hole and then wait to burn on a rainy day.
I keep a pile of feed sacks in the barn to help get things started
 
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#36  
Much to my dismay, Michigan DNRE has managed to ban "trash" burning and it goes into effect April 1st, 2011. Trash meaning anything that has been processed. That includes even dimensional lumber.

So, I've abandoned my idea of a concrete pad. In fact, I've abandoned most everything related to sensible burning. I've been cutting stuff up like crazy with a chainsaw and burning anything that might burn in barrels with a wee bit of help from dead dinosaur goo.

I suspect I'm not the only person that is burning stuff they normally would not have if they hadn't banned burning of trash.

The chainsaw does not appear to like cutting fence. haha.

I do appreciate the tool-less chain system on my Husqvarna 235e when I'm literally changing chains every 10 minutes.

I'll probably see about making a new incinerator for what I don't get done in the next two weeks.
 
   / Burning waste material on a concrete pad #37  
Wrath,
Don't know where you are located but if you are in NY there is no outdoor burning allowed anymore. Our DEC (Dept. of Environmental Conservation) website lists what is and isn't allowed. The State put a ban on all outdoor burning such as you want to do. Small campground fires are OK and a few limited other types of small fires. I wanted to burn and old deck and shed and other burnable trash a couple years ago but if I did and got caught there is a big fine. I eneded up having a dumpster dropped, filled it up and hauled away. Check in your locality to see if you can burn outdoors.
 
   / Burning waste material on a concrete pad #38  
Id do what i said and put a plow line around it and burn the whole lot off at once or burn it ing 3-4 piles in the next few weeks. Keep and steady fire for several days till u finish.
 
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#39  
I'd have to get a permit to burn like that as the whole 'hood would know about it. My immediate neighbors are normal people but beyond that are not "tractorbynet" kind of people by any means.

Once it was found out what I wanted to burn I'd be denied a permit plus they'd pay special attention to me going forward.

I've just been burning like crazy in burning barrels. I'll take the remains to the dump when I'm finished.

I'm mostly down to stuff I don't want to burn like tires, insulation, and oldschool treated wood.

I've learned three things:
If you go slow enough, a chainsaw chain will cut through metal fencing without breaking teeth.
If it looks like magnesium, it feels like magnesium, and it burns like magnesium... it probably was magnesium.
Burning something with zinc plating on it is similar to welding something with zinc plating on it.
 
   / Burning waste material on a concrete pad #40  
As stated above, I have been on the fire engine when we responded to illegal "trash" piles. They were stinky nasty stuff. Also had a neighbor burning trash with construction debri. Nasty, smelled up the neighborhood, even though we are spread out on 5 and 10 acre parcels.

I'm glad trash burning is illegal here. Nasty does not come close to describing the smoke ect from the trash piles I have seen.

We can still burn, in the wet season. But it is limited to yard debri; ie leaves, pine needles, tree trimmings ect. I like the fact we can burn. And the limits to that burning.

Did I mention those trash burn piles were nasty, acrid and gross?

I guess if you had a 1000 acre ranch and burned out in the middle of it it might not be so bad.

Much to my dismay, Michigan DNRE has managed to ban "trash" burning and it goes into effect April 1st, 2011. Trash meaning anything that has been processed. That includes even dimensional lumber.
 

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