Bushmaster not backing up their guns?

[Notforhire]

Are the bolt lugs sheared? Is the barrel extention damaged? What does the brass case look like? Head separation?

 

[thatguy]

How old is the gun? Bushmaster is one of the brand names of the Freedom Group (which also owns marlin, remington and DPMS and a few other related type companies) whose parent company is the investment group Cerberus. Bushmaster are still being marketed and sold currently.

to the OP - what brand of magazine was that? wondering if it didnt feel properly or something

any pics of the brass that went off?

I dont understand how a 'second round in the mag would be set off'.. I have seen .22 conversion fire out of battery when dirty but thats a different story..

Brian

 

[nybirdman]

Bushmaster is owned by "The Freedom Group" ,they also own Remington,Marlin and others.I would contac them if Bushmaster won't honor their products.Most gun manufactors are very good in this regard.

 

[The Haymaker]

How old is the gun? Bushmaster is one of the brand names of the Freedom Group (which also owns marlin, remington and DPMS and a few other related type companies) whose parent company is the investment group Cerberus. Bushmaster are still being marketed and sold currently.

to the OP - what brand of magazine was that? wondering if it didnt feel properly or something

any pics of the brass that went off?

I dont understand how a 'second round in the mag would be set off'.. I have seen .22 conversion fire out of battery when dirty but thats a different story..

Brian

Yes, Lake City. I hadn't had my caffeine yet.

I to am curious how an AR could fire without the bolt being locked in place. I don't believe carbon buildup is an issue. I have intentionally let my maintenance go while using Wolf. His bolt looked new compared to what mine turned into.

Dunno on the mag mfg. Even if it was a feed issue, that wouldn't result in a failed bolt? Again, hard to whack a primer if the firing pin can't reach it.

For those asking about the round in the mag, read my post carefully. The chunk of bolt carrier missing in the pic blew downward, striking and setting off a round in the (unknown mfg) composite mag. That round was an empty shell, burst completely down one side, missing primer and lead.

The chambered round is still there because the bolt and carrier are locked fully forward and unable to be pulled back. Last I knew he still had not separated the upper because it is locked into place and he didn't want to break anything else before Bushy came around.

Considering he had a full conversation with someone on the phone, and not a simple "We didn't make that" for a response, I'm gonna take a wild guess he talked with the right people.

I'll update when I get more info.

 

[PoorPlowboy]

You'll have to explain to us how an AR15 fires without the bolt forward and rotated behind the barrel extension lugs. Debris on the boltface, possible though highly unlikely. First, the geometry of Stoner's mechanism is such that firing pin protrusion from the boltface is insufficient unless the bolt is against the chamber face; and second, the carrier has come forward enough to rotate the bolt via the cam pin -- otherwise, the hammer can not contact the end of the firing pin.

Wrooster

Yes the hammer can hit the firing pin if the bolt is compressed in the BCG, no matter if it has rotated in the bbl lugs or not. Out of battery happens due to poor maintenance.

 

[PoorPlowboy]

Also, if a certain ammo blows your gun up, why are you expecting the gun manufacturer to fix it? Contact the ammo manufacturer, they will investigate the cause and if their ammo is at fault they will buy you a new gun.

 

[Notforhire]

The chambered round is still there because the bolt and carrier are locked fully forward and unable to be pulled back. Last I knew he still had not separated the upper because it is locked into place and he didn't want to break anything else before Bushy came around.

If that's the case (no pun intended) it sounds like it was in battery and suffered case head separation. Short case? creates excess head space, or way to much powder.

I had a factory Norma 220 Swift almost wreck a Mauser custom rifle of mine. It took two people to open the bolt and extract the case. The primer pocket was so inlarged you could rattle a primer in it. In my case the gun didn't come apart.
Gotta love those German 98s.

 

[edlegault]

IF it was caused by bad ammo, then the OEM factory needs to inspect the remains and do a write-up saying so. THEN take results to the ammo manufacturer. If the OEM factory won't do an anaysis, then it is time get a lawyer.

 

[shortthrow50]

yeah ok "lakeville" than you say you blame it on the caffeine. you dont know what the **** your talking about. Bushmaster is just as reputable as any other ar manufacturer. I have 2 ar's from bushmaster from the past 12 years and a recently purchased .50bmg (BA50) which cost 5000 dollars. All are flawless weapons. So big deal something happened at the range. Too many factors to factor in. There have been numerous amounts of colt malfunctions too. Bushmaster wasnt there and they dont have all the evidence and facts so why should they do anything.I guess bushmaster should just trust ole' Skip becuase he teaches gun saftey. Thats like saying we should rely on the police to know all the laws. So dont go spewing nonsense rumors especially if you dont know your a-hole from your elbow with guns.

 

[CurlyDave]

IF it was caused by bad ammo, then the OEM factory needs to inspect the remains and do a write-up saying so. THEN take results to the ammo manufacturer. If the OEM factory won't do an anaysis, then it is time get a lawyer.

I don't know about that. A few days ago a current Bushmaster was going for well under $1000. If I get a lawyer to write a letter and read up on the law in a specific area, he is going to charge me just about $1000. Going to trial is many, many times more expensive.

While it surely isn't satisfying, the financially prudent move is to try the rifle manufacturer, the ammo manufacturer, and then spend your money on a new rifle when they try to pass the buck.