Bushy's 110

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Are you guys talking about a york rake? Sounds like the same thing to me. I had a guy who does work for me use one on his Kubota to make lawn. The 3 ph type. Those are impresive implements. In fact he was across the road using it today. I checked on the front hydraulics for a snow thrower. According to the JD dealer the only one that will work is made by Erskine. The front hydraulics on the 110 is limited as compared to a skid steer. I'm going to postponed the snow thrower this year. I'm getting a 7' light duty for snow. My Dealer wants $900.00. I can get one at a JD dealer an hour away for $650.00. That's quite a difference in price. This makes me uncomfortable for his $4700.00 quote on the snow trower. I have to study the situation a little more before I make the move. JOE GIVES THE BUCK A GOOD HOME.
 
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Rat,Bushy,& Joe
Rat good to see you are still here and that you haven't dug yourself a hole sooo deep you can't get out!!Hope the 48 is runnin' well.Anyway,I have always had the pro style rake with the dual rollers,I purchased a new bottom roller with the carbide tips on it and it is 10 times better than the standard bar roller,as I have said before if your bars are worn out ,call glenmac,ask for Mark Brunell,he will sell you the roller for your rake with the carbide tips.I also added the side plates to my rake and I'm not sure how I used it without them,they are well worth the doe and glenmac will also make them for your rake,hope this clears things up.

Bushy-I had the priveledge of talking to one of the engineers who helped design the 110 in March at the Con-Expo in Las Vegas,thats why I have some more knowledge than has been available in literature,the dealers and from the JD web site.As far as I know the 110 has 12GPM to the front aux. hydraulics,a six foot harley rake NEEDS AT LEAST 11GPM to turn the hyd. motor.I have operated both style rakes,while I was waiting for my 110 I used a Cat skid steer with a Harley rake and it runs totally different than a three point hitch one,but not different in a bad way,just different.I personally prefer the three point hitch one like I have,but I have been interested in the GPM requirements of a rockhound,because after windrowing the rocks with the Harley rake you could come along with the Rockhound on the front and pick them all up with little effort.Overall the harley rake does more and does a better job than a Rockhound alone could do,try to find people in your area who operate one or the other and get their opinion,or you could always rent either attachment and try it out for yourself,hope this helps.

Joe -A Harley rake is a million times better than a York rake could ever be.The Harley rake is generally referred to as a power rake or power box rake,when used on a compact tractor it is hooked on to the three point hitch,and has rollers that churn the dirt,soil,process,sod (you get the point) and are powered by a driveshaft that is connected to the PTO of the tractor,the rake churns the soil while removing rocks and windrowing them adnit leaves behind a perfect prepared areac for seeding.
 
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Hi Tags, thanks for the response. With the carbide teeth on the bottom roller, are there any issues with top roller? From the info I have from Glenmac/Harley, the carbide roller looks incredible. I could use it right now on a bunch of things. Until folks see one of these rakes in action, its hard to imagine just how impressive they are. Do you think your getting a good life out of your carbide? I will check on the bottom carbide tooth roller for the Pro 8 we have. I'm sure you mentioned this to me before and I misunderstood, thanks, Rat...
 
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Hey Rat, I have used the rake quite a bit this year since putting on the new roller and I really don't see much wear at all.When I installed it I adjusted the top roller so it just barely missed the carbide tips and it seems to still have the same clearance it had when I adjusted it originally,and this is after I have prepped several lawns and 4 or 5 hardpacked driveways.From what the guys at Glenmac told me the carbide roller does a better all around job than the bars but they said the only real downfall to the teeth is that it will let larger stones pass between the rollers because the teeth stand a bit higher than the bars,but I haven't really noticed it.The phone number for Glenmac is 800-437-9779 and ask for Mark,good luck!
 
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I want the carbide roller, it logically makes a ton of sense. The Pro 8 is back up in Redding, about 3 hours north of here. If you bought a new rake would you rather have a 6' or 8'? I will check into the carbide roller soon. Rat...
 
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I picked up my 7' bucket today. I also inquired about a snow blower. Seems like the 110 hydraulics are at 12.2 gals.
It's tough to find a snowblower that will work on the 110 other than the Erskine. They did mentioned that they put a Harley rake on a 110 front . They are a big J D and Kubota dealer in Fairfield ,Maine . Many times the size of my dealer. They told me they have sold 8 110's so far. They have 6 on their lot and 4 more on order. This place is a compact tractor paradise. Everthing is brand new. Huge showroom. The John Deere people were up there last week looking over some of the sold units. Most likely the same people Tags talked to.
 
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<<<<<<<JoeReal>>>>>>>>>>>

How did they say the Harley rake worked on the front of the 110? Did it handle it ok, or was it just right or lacking? How big was the rake? How much does a Harley rake cost? I take it that the hydraulic on the front loader is what powered it. Tell me more, Tell me more, make it up if you gotta. Just kidding just the facts. Bushy
 
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<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.glenmac.com/>harley rakes</A>
 
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Glenmacs website could use some organization. The Box Rake takes a little searching to find. The Pro rakes are easy to find. Check for the rake with the tungsten carbide teeth on the bottom roller. Better yet, call them and they will send you a brochure and perhaps a video. Once I saw the video (around 1992) I was hooked. Rat...
 
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<<<<<<<<<<<<<<ScottAR and Rat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thanks for the help. It seems to be an agressive tool.

I'm not sure why I'm insistant on a front mount implement. One reason I guess is it seems easier to drop a loader bucket than the entire backhoe.

I'll need to image this, it may be that the way I approach a task will need to evolve or change! Revalation of the day. Thanks again. Bushy
 
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Bushy, your right, my thoughts exactly. By using it on the front you could leave your hoe on. It might depend on the amount you intend to rake. If it was a relatively large area, a rear mount 6' 8' or 10' plus the PTO power would make more sense. For quick detach/attach, the front quick hitch seems ideal. The rakes are pricey, but after using one, you will quickly realize how valuable they are. They seem bullet proof too. I have pulled out and winrowed boulders as big as beach balls with it. On my 8' model, I routinely bent the winrowing hyrdaulic cylinder because the Kubota L4850 I was using in 4 WD just over powered it and pulled the rake so hard the cylinder would bend in the extended mode. To eliminate that I mostly pull in 2 WD and also put on a much bigger ram and changed the mounts to give the cylinder more leverage. I look forward to getting a rake with the carbide roller. Rat...
 
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Bushy I don't know anything about Harley rakes. I just heard them mention it. I could of heard wrong. Here's the phone no. 2074537131 or, this one. I don't know if this is a nation wide toll free no. 877-453-2473. They are Hammond Tractor Co.
Getting back to me. I put on my new 7' bucket which is actually contruction grade not the light duty one. When I came to hook it up I discovered the clevis pin missing on the spreader rod i. e. the one between the boom arms. Obviously it's been off a while because I took the one off the other side to get a right match. That one was pretty well worn, which tells me it was working quite a bit. One other thing, the boom arms don"t come down at the same rate which makes it a little difficult to mount a bucket or whatever. In other words it's hard to get the right elevations on both arms so as to mount the bucket. Has anyone experienced this.
 
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(About the attachment...it is four REALLY GOOD pics of the 110 with a hard cab,it is still in "file form"so it takes a minute but is worth checking out!!)

Joe,when you say "arms"I am assuming you mean the quicktach plates,since there is a right and left side to them.When I got my 110 it was missing a pin on the bar that goes between the loader arms and that the qt plates pin to,whithout that little pin the plates would move independent of each other making it hard to line up with the attachment,as soon as my salesman gave me the missing pin and I put it in the problem disappeared.If your loader arms are actually not dropping at the same rate something is really wrong so I hope what I describbed is wrong and nothing else.

Bushy,I'm not quite sure why everybody seems so afraid to remove the hoe on this machine,I swap it back and forth an average of 2 to 3 times a week,there is not a simpiler thing to do,tying your shoes may be harder.Yes a front mounted rake SOUNDS better I agree but think about these few things,you will always be raking going in reverse,even though the hydraulic driven rakes rotate both ways you can go forwards,but if you don't want to see tire tracks after you are done you will be looking back an awfull lot,next thing is if you need to pick up a bucket of rocks or soil you have to stop raking disconnect the hydraulics,remove the rake,hook up the bucket,then after you do that,do it all again to hook the rake back up,and the last thing is you would always be running the rake at the near minimum flow requirements which may mean it really isn't performing at its peak,so you would have an implement that cost around 6 grand that really doesn't work the way it should.On the other hand if you bought a three point hitch model it is going to work EXTREMELY WELL and you would be able to rough grade with the bucket and immediately rake it,and after using a skid steer with a harley rake I feel that the threepoint hitch models do a better job anyway.

Also thought I'd put this out there,I needed extra weight on the rear of the machine when I remove the hoe and put the rake on and apparently Deere just advises filling the tires which adds about 500 to 700 pounds per tire,which is too much weight on the axels when the hoe is installed,I wanted wheel weights but Deere doesn't offer them,so,I went to a Deere dealer who just sells the green machines with my 110,the guy was EXTREMELY helpfull,considering I didn't buy it from him,he measured the rims and contacted an independent manufacturer of wheel weights and found out that they do make weights that fit that style of rim,so I ordered a set.They weigh 106lbs a piece and cost $102 dollars each and they are stackable so more could be added.I put them on the other day and used the rake today and they made quite a difference.So even though Deere doesn't make them them,you can still get em'.Also Laurin cabs has a Hard cab now available for the 110,it looks very well built,and it fits the machine well.I am going to try to post a picture but if it doesn't work go to.... Laurin-inc.com.....go into the French section(they haven't updated the U.S. section yet) click on the Green Deere with the cab on it and you can see a pic of the 110 with the cab on,looks real sharp!
 
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Bushy, here is a scan of one of the pages from a brochure I got from Glenmac/Harley. Rat...
 

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You guys(Rat and Tags) are just full of information!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the info. I stop on the way home this evening and spoke to landscaper that was using a Rock Hound though it was Bob Cat's version. It does a nice job.

The cab for the 110 looks pretty good. I wonder how much it will cost. I asked a local boat canvas guy to give me a price on a vinyl enclosure( $650.00) , guess I'd rather put that money toward the real thing. He wants to drill my fender for snapps. I'm not too keen on that. Bushy
 
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Bushy,
$o,you want to know how much a cab i$,eh??Well you've come to the right place! It ju$t $o happen$ that I priced one out today.Keep in mind the pricing I am about to give you i$ li$t price and DOE$ NOT include in$tallation.The cab itself li$t$ for $4900 and you need to buy the "backhoe conver$ion package" which allow$ the hoe to be enclo$ed al$o,that li$t$ for $525,that add$ up to a grand total of $5425...oh,don't forget $hipping either,that would co$t me another $400,oh and let$ not forget in$tallation (which I would probably do my$elf,but if I didn't)the dealer said to figure 2 day$,$ince they have never done one before,$o that i$ 2 day$ of labor,8hr$ a day @ $85 an hour...$1360.....all for a grand total of....$7185.....DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A bit of a $hock,but like I $aid it is all li$t pricing.(Are you guys getting the thing with the dollar signs now?)Anyway I should have a better idea of what it will really cost tomorrow.It does come with some nice features though,44000 btu heater,front windsheild wiper,front halogen lights,a door on either side with gas shocks,rear tilt up window,floormat,and headliner.There are a bunch of options available to from a radio to AC.The hoe is still removeable with the cab and the threepoint hitch is still accessable also,if I get any more info I'll pass it along!
 
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Well I had a demo 110 today. The machine is great. The visibilty is extrodarnary. The power is awsome. Now I am waiting on pricing from dealer. But I have 3 dealers to chose from 2 green 1 yellow. Tags whiich CT. dealer who you have been dealing with?
 
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Tags:

I get it, exspensive! Looks nice though. I,m stopping at Bob Cat this evening to check out lit on attachments.

About two weeks ago on the home page of tractorbynet.com there was a banner advertising Canadian tractor dealers, does anyone recall the web address. I would like to check them out. Bushy
 
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Ted,
Glad to see someone else from CT here! Well,I bought my 110 from WI Clark,but I also priced the machine at G&H equipment,Farmington valley equipment,and Stanton equipment.There were a few reasons I went with Clark,the first being ,they had the best price,second,I already had an account with them(I rent equipment from them often)and I liked dealing with them,third,they have a bunch of attachments that are available for rent for the 110,from buckets to hammers to sweepers,and none of the other dealers had anything to rent for it,fourth,they are also closer to me than the other dealers and my salesman lives near me so he drops parts off to my house and has also picked the machine up for me a couple of times whan it needed something,fifth,it is more of a construction oriented piece of equipment so I figured a dealer that sells construction equipment would have a better handel on it.Back to my last point though,Clark does have a better handel on the hoe and loader portion,but I think the Green dealers have a better handel on the three point hitch,and overall mechanics of the machine since overall it is much closer to a 4600 than a 310G.I am happy I went with Clark,the pricing I got from the other dealers varied quite a bit,G&H and Farmington Valley were quite high,and Stanton was close to Clark,and I liked the guys at Stanton,and to be fair, all the dealers I priced it through really didn't "know" how to price it since it was new and they were doing it from very vague price sheets,so you may recieve different results.Who did you demo the machine through?What options are you thinking of getting?Also if you want I could give you my salesmans name and number ,he's a good guy and will work hard to get you a good deal,if you do,just let me know,hope all my rambling helps,happy hunting!
 

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