Well the deal is done. Thanks everyone for your help and assistance. Brought the used Kioti DS4510 w/FEL and Bush hog home today in time to get a couple hours of bush hogging in. With only 165 hours on the tractor was in showroom condition. Original owner was very meticulous and well organized. Ended up getting the tractor and the 6 foot bush hog all for 16,500. After using the tractor for a couple hours, the manual transmission and shuttle is okay but I can definitely see the advantage of the synchronized transmission with Hydraulic Shuttle. With manual you have to bring the tractor to a complete stop for any change of gear or direction. Not bad for bush hogging but I can see where the HS would be a big time saver for loader work or brush hogging in a situation where you have to go back and forth a lot, ie backing into edge of trees lines etc. The HST would also be nice being able to change speed with just the push of the pedal, again mostly a time saver. I am semi-retired so time saving was not as big of an issue for me. Overall very happy with the Kioti. Next up is a toothbar purchase so I can see how well it will dig and move dirt.