Buying my 1st tractor this weekend and need advise BIG TIME - quotes included

   / Buying my 1st tractor this weekend and need advise BIG TIME - quotes included
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#121  
I will post some tractor **** after they deliver it Thursday. I wish i had not forgot about the J-Rake. I need one and its a 2 week wait to get it built and thats 170 miles away for $1500
I don't know if thats a good price or not. I hope i can find a builder local.
 
   / Buying my 1st tractor this weekend and need advise BIG TIME - quotes included #122  
I have not paid for the JD yet. Im still VERY interested in the trick to working that treadle pedal without all the back and forth foot movement without having Bigfoot size feet.
Please elaborate. If theres a trick that i don't know about, i can go back and drive the KUB today while applying the new technique.

I think I phrased it "less foot movement" with the Kubota. Both arrangements require some movement of the foot, but I find it's less on the Kubota.

On my Deere, when I go from forward to reverse, the motion is: pivot toe upward, move heel sideways to the right, pivot toe downward. Do that a lot and it's like a one-footed dance move.

On the Kubota, all the motion is front to back, and can be combined into what ends up being a knee pivot followed by a toe stomp or a heel stomp. Everything is inline and more natural to me.

From what I read, I don't think that would change the issue you had with the Kubota treadle or the preference for the Deere pedals. You seemed to have issues with the movement and effort required by the Kubota treadle, not the overall amount of movement.

You could certainly adjust the centering-spring on the Kubota treadle to require less effort, but that would then mean the HST would be a lot slower to return to neutral/stop after you let off from forward or reverse. That could be borderline dangerous. The spring is there (in conjunction with a damper to control the rate) to re-center the treadle for proper, safe, and smooth return to neutral/stop. It's not meant to be adjusted for operator effort.
 
   / Buying my 1st tractor this weekend and need advise BIG TIME - quotes included
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#123  
I think I phrased it "less foot movement" with the Kubota. Both arrangements require some movement of the foot, but I find it's less on the Kubota.

On my Deere, when I go from forward to reverse, the motion is: pivot toe upward, move heel sideways to the right, pivot toe downward. Do that a lot and it's like a one-footed dance move.

On the Kubota, all the motion is front to back, and can be combined into what ends up being a knee pivot followed by a toe stomp or a heel stomp. Everything is inline and more natural to me.

From what I read, I don't think that would change the issue you had with the Kubota treadle or the preference for the Deere pedals. You seemed to have issues with the movement and effort required by the Kubota treadle, not the overall amount of movement.

You could certainly adjust the centering-spring on the Kubota treadle to require less effort, but that would then mean the HST would be a lot slower to return to neutral/stop after you let off from forward or reverse. That could be borderline dangerous. The spring is there (in conjunction with a damper to control the rate) to re-center the treadle for proper, safe, and smooth return to neutral/stop. It's not meant to be adjusted for operator effort.

I specifically asked the owner of the KUB dealership about adjustment of the treadle effort required and he went to the techs and everyone agreed that there was no way to adjust it. Now that you mention it, when i let off from pushing forward on the treadle,
it was like i slammed on the brakes. I asked the owner if that was a normal response and he responded yes, it does that when returning to neutral. Now i wonder if it was not adjusted correctly to factory spec
and caused more effort to operate that treadle. Is was abrupt enough that i asked him if it had just applied the brakes when i let off the pedal. If thats the case, he lost the sale because of it.
I sign the contract in the morning on the JD.

And you are correct, its not the movement its the amount of effort that it took to push and or pull the treadle.
 
   / Buying my 1st tractor this weekend and need advise BIG TIME - quotes included #124  
Congrats on your new tractor. Best of luck with it and be sure to post up some pictures.
 
   / Buying my 1st tractor this weekend and need advise BIG TIME - quotes included #125  
I will post some tractor **** after they deliver it Thursday. I wish i had not forgot about the J-Rake. I need one and its a 2 week wait to get it built and thats 170 miles away for $1500
I don't know if thats a good price or not. I hope i can find a builder local.

We can't wait to see the pictures, we like pictures of new tractors. Excellent choice for you.
 
   / Buying my 1st tractor this weekend and need advise BIG TIME - quotes included
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Ok, here are the pics. it was delivered thursday and right after i backed it into my garage, it started pouring rain and didn't stop.
So friday i took it to the big garage and started on the first order of business, welding some hooks on the bucket as i had went thursday night to TSC
and bought a 5' rake that was in the back of my truck and myself and wife are not going to be able to get it out by hand.
Then i found out that the harbor freight 3 point quick hitch seemed to be the exact same thing as the JD match quick hitch. went to harbor freight
and found that they were closing them out and had 2 left. $99 and with a 20% off got it for $79. works identical to the JD piece and not $400.

Then i didn't let the paint dry long enough and wanted to play with it. i'll repaint the top of the bucket later.
 

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   / Buying my 1st tractor this weekend and need advise BIG TIME - quotes included #127  
Looks great, Nice weld job on the hooks.:thumbsup:
 
   / Buying my 1st tractor this weekend and need advise BIG TIME - quotes included #128  
Looks great! But I have to say, I don't know why Deere can't route the loader hoses better -- it's been like that on several models for years. It's like it was an afterthought instead of a factory design. I almost suspect it's the kind of thing an owner could improve if they wanted to, either with a guard/cover to protect the hoses, or by re-routing new hoses. Otherwise, sweet machine!
 
   / Buying my 1st tractor this weekend and need advise BIG TIME - quotes included
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Looks great! But I have to say, I don't know why Deere can't route the loader hoses better -- it's been like that on several models for years. It's like it was an afterthought instead of a factory design. I almost suspect it's the kind of thing an owner could improve if they wanted to, either with a guard/cover to protect the hoses, or by re-routing new hoses. Otherwise, sweet machine!


NAILED IT !!!!!!!! My thoughts EXACTLY... I told the wife, i need to fab up a shield / cover for that. KUB does such a nice job routing those hoses and keeping them out of the way.
Not to mention they are an eye sore like that. I think its ridiculous that they let that slide. I will figure out something to cover / protect them.
 
   / Buying my 1st tractor this weekend and need advise BIG TIME - quotes included #130  
Nice tractor! I don't get the hose routing either and it's not just John Deere, there are others that could route the hoses better.
Enjoy it.
 

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