MessickFarmEqu
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2ft sounds extreme. You do need to learn to feather most hydrostatics. Personaly, I like them to stop as fast as possible and I let my foot just slow the machine.
bx24 hard stop in reverse
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You got that right ! The machine is unsafe on an incline as the front wheels come right off the ground, even at low speed. I have made adjustments to mine without success. I will try some more tomorrow plus the dealer has ordered me a new gas shock.
You got that right ! The machine is unsafe on an incline as the front wheels come right off the ground, even at low speed. I have made adjustments to mine without success. I will try some more tomorrow plus the dealer has ordered me a new gas shock.
Until I learn to feather consistantly, or find an adjustment that works, I just keep my reverse speed down, and add weight to the FEL if I need to.
I've only got 35hrs of seat time, but it's amazing how much one can learn, and quickly! This board sure does help too!
I've only got 35hrs of seat time, but it's amazing how much one can learn, and quickly! This board sure does help too!
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I need to point out the fact that I have been operating various hydros including Kubota for about 20 years and do believe that I know how to feather the pedal. You CAN'T feather these from reverse, the wheels just lock up in any normal stop. There is a serious problem in the new series. I am going to adjust the neutral setting a bit more. I have also backed the return spring off. It feels like it cams over center and hits forward a bit. I already moved it enough to stop the creep but maybe it needs a bit more. I think the gas shock is weak and allows it to return too fast. I can move the shock in and out with 2 fingers. My last BX worked just fine. My dealer can't seem to get me a manual but has sent me some pages as this machine adjusts differently than my last BX.
I need to point out the fact that I have been operating various hydros including Kubota for about 20 years and do believe that I know how to feather the pedal. You CAN'T feather these from reverse, the wheels just lock up in any normal stop. There is a serious problem in the new series. I am going to adjust the neutral setting a bit more. I have also backed the return spring off. It feels like it cams over center and hits forward a bit. I already moved it enough to stop the creep but maybe it needs a bit more. I think the gas shock is weak and allows it to return too fast. I can move the shock in and out with 2 fingers. My last BX worked just fine. My dealer can't seem to get me a manual but has sent me some pages as this machine adjusts differently than my last BX.
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Obviously, the 24's have a situation different than previous versions. I didn't pickup on that when I replied previously. Some have complained about prior series but this seems to be much more of a prob. One thing that comes to mind is, a possible situation mentioned once before: Any chance the brake linkage is adjusted too tight? ...
Kevin,
Sounds like you are getting it under control. Let us know if there is a procedure you followed to get it adjusted correctly or if the shock is the bad actor.
I do have to chuckle a bit. When I was a snot nose, having a tractor that could pull a wheelie would have been cool, and here you are trying to stop it! I guess it's a lot less cool when you have to pay for the equipment!!
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Oh, I DON'T have a BX, but have an L3410. I do NOT feather it. While on it today in medium range at 2400 rpm with the peddle all the way down, I side stepped the peddle. It took about 5-7 feet to glide to a stop in both directions and while it was firm, it was not harsh. A properly adjusted tractor should not need extraordinary care to operate. But that's just my $0.02, YMMV.
Sounds like you are getting it under control. Let us know if there is a procedure you followed to get it adjusted correctly or if the shock is the bad actor.
I do have to chuckle a bit. When I was a snot nose, having a tractor that could pull a wheelie would have been cool, and here you are trying to stop it! I guess it's a lot less cool when you have to pay for the equipment!!
jb
Oh, I DON'T have a BX, but have an L3410. I do NOT feather it. While on it today in medium range at 2400 rpm with the peddle all the way down, I side stepped the peddle. It took about 5-7 feet to glide to a stop in both directions and while it was firm, it was not harsh. A properly adjusted tractor should not need extraordinary care to operate. But that's just my $0.02, YMMV.
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This the way it should be. The early BX machines stop quick which is fine. My Dad's B7500 is smooth too. My dealer has noticed this problem on others he has sold but says Kubota really has no idea other than to adjust and replace the shock.
This the way it should be. The early BX machines stop quick which is fine. My Dad's B7500 is smooth too. My dealer has noticed this problem on others he has sold but says Kubota really has no idea other than to adjust and replace the shock.
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I have an 04 BX23 and if I just let up on the treadle it'll try to lock the brakes at any speed in either direction.
The only way I get a smooth coast down to a stop is by feathering the treadle pedal, which is almost an automatic response now.
I guess I'm used to it as I don't even have to think about slowing or changeing directions, I just do it. I actually like the treadle.....
On the BX23 treadle, theres more return spring pressure in reverse than there is in forward. I guessed this was to lessen the fatigue factor when depressing the pedal in the forward direction.
To properly adjust the treadle is more akin to the art of reaching a happy compromise. You want it to rreturn to "true" neutral when the foot is removed so the tractor won't creep but you don't want to have too much pressure to overcome to move in either direction.
Hopefully your dealer will get it right for you.
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The only way I get a smooth coast down to a stop is by feathering the treadle pedal, which is almost an automatic response now.
I guess I'm used to it as I don't even have to think about slowing or changeing directions, I just do it. I actually like the treadle.....
On the BX23 treadle, theres more return spring pressure in reverse than there is in forward. I guessed this was to lessen the fatigue factor when depressing the pedal in the forward direction.
To properly adjust the treadle is more akin to the art of reaching a happy compromise. You want it to rreturn to "true" neutral when the foot is removed so the tractor won't creep but you don't want to have too much pressure to overcome to move in either direction.
Hopefully your dealer will get it right for you.
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Well.........I got the shock today, very minor difference. I tried moving the neutral center far enought to have rearward creep and it still does it, maybe slightly better with no creep but closer to rear than forward. I did determine that in reverse under load (uphill) is no problem. It is when you are backing down or on the level using the transmission for some braking. So I guess some of this is overcoming the gear lash ???? I need to talk with the dealer again next week.
Well.........I got the shock today, very minor difference. I tried moving the neutral center far enought to have rearward creep and it still does it, maybe slightly better with no creep but closer to rear than forward. I did determine that in reverse under load (uphill) is no problem. It is when you are backing down or on the level using the transmission for some braking. So I guess some of this is overcoming the gear lash ???? I need to talk with the dealer again next week.
Charliebrn
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Gotta say that is the only thing I have to complain about on my BX2350. Same issue. No way it's just not feathering it properly, the difference between a smooth rearward stop and an abrupt, front-wheel-lifting-jerk is about 1/16th of an inch of pedal movement.... never had this issue with my BX2200.
We need to keep this one active until a real solution is found.
BTW, my forward stop is just fine...
We need to keep this one active until a real solution is found.
BTW, my forward stop is just fine...
