BX24 pull 500 gallons of water?

   / BX24 pull 500 gallons of water? #21  
David_G said:
A water tank for fire fighting has baffles inside the tank to reduce the effect of the water slopping side to side and back to front.

A purpose built fire fighting tank may have but an ex fuel tank or simillar does'nt , that's what i meant . Also the problems with baffles are they are installed verticaly . With a half full tank it is the same as having no baffle at all . Instead of having one big wave hitting the end you now have two half sized waves hitting , which is an equal amount too one big wave . Logic tells me that a baffle should run horizontally in the center with a couple of small holes to allow filling . That way a half full tank would still have a roof above the liquid and would behave like a full tank .
 
   / BX24 pull 500 gallons of water? #22  
I would have to say the Fire Solutions Online website has about the best system. It is simple to use and you could even make it mobile with a small trailer. It holds a 120 gallons of water and is completely self contained. Home Pro: Home Defense for Fire Safety - Fire Solutions Online: Home Pro: Home Defense for Fire Safety

That is the link. Anything along that lines will cover you until you can get more help.

These units should be able to produce enough foam for a decent amount of coverage. I would email them and ask them what square footage these small units cover. Also; it would not hurt to look into a rain fed underground tank with a high pressure pump. I will try to get some more info for you. I am home with a strained back muscle and go back to work tomorrow so I will ask around.
 
   / BX24 pull 500 gallons of water? #23  
i agree with most of what has been posted. the best protection is building defensible open areas into the landscape around your buildings, removing ladder fuel and things like woodpiles and fuel storage tanks, and using fire retardant building materials or protectants.

that said, i disagree with the underground water storage unless you have good battery operated pumps or generators to get the water out. often, a wildfire will take out electrical to your property before it gets there. that means wells don't work and you can't pump water. better to put the tank on stilts so you can gravity feed if you need it that badly.

another option is to get a pto pump for the tractor and put it to work pumping water either out of an underground tank or from a creek/stream/pond etc. you can run a lot of hose and move a lot of water with a tractor pto and a good pto or wagon mounted reel.

on what a bx can pull, it can pull a lot more than what it's rated for, but the safety factor goes down. i pulled a tandem axle trailer full of wet sawdust around the property yesterday. without the FEL in place, the front wheels were barely skimming the ground and turning was a slow and tricky process. i would say trailer weight with load was in the neighborhood of 3-4 tons and there was definitely too much tongue weight. i would not have felt good about doing it on anything but flat terrain and not with any kind of additional stresses like a wildfire coming at me. having the FEL in place and something in the bucket would have helped. that said, i ran it at or near idle in low gear and the machine did what i asked it to do and there was no damage.

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   / BX24 pull 500 gallons of water? #24  
i agree with most of what has been posted. the best protection is building defensible open areas into the landscape around your buildings, removing ladder fuel and things like woodpiles and fuel storage tanks, and using fire retardant building materials or protectants.

that said, i disagree with the underground water storage unless you have good battery operated pumps or generators to get the water out. often, a wildfire will take out electrical to your property before it gets there. that means wells don't work and you can't pump water. better to put the tank on stilts so you can gravity feed if you need it that badly.

another option is to get a pto pump for the tractor and put it to work pumping water either out of an underground tank or from a creek/stream/pond etc. you can run a lot of hose and move a lot of water with a tractor pto and a good pto or wagon mounted reel.

on what a bx can pull, it can pull a lot more than what it's rated for, but the safety factor goes down. i pulled a tandem axle trailer full of wet sawdust around the property yesterday. without the FEL in place, the front wheels were barely skimming the ground and turning was a slow and tricky process. i would say trailer weight with load was in the neighborhood of 3-4 tons and there was definitely too much tongue weight. i would not have felt good about doing it on anything but flat terrain and not with any kind of additional stresses like a wildfire coming at me. having the FEL in place and something in the bucket would have helped. that said, i ran it at or near idle in low gear and the machine did what i asked it to do and there was no damage.

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