Buying Advice Cabela's Tractor Help PLEASE

[2ndhalf]

After having read all the posts from beginning to this point, I'm struck by a couple of things:

1. The OP states in the 1st post that he is a complete newbie to tractors and then is looking at a 55 hp tractor . . . . Yet the balance of the posts are about warranty and resale price. "Complete newbie" . . . And 55 hp . . . "Having a bunch of dirt work" requires 55 hp????

2. Many mentions of j.d. and kubota tractors . . . Even a few on kioti and mahindra . . . but not a single mention of Massey Ferguson or Yanmar ????

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Probably due to the fact that the OP stated he liked Kubota and Deere for parts and service but was also considering the TYM. I think the thread also got derailed a bit though. I agree with you if in fact there are dealers for the other tractors nearby I think he should certainly consider all of the above since they are also great tractors.

When I say nearby I mean within 45 minutes to an hour (Nearest MF dealer is about an hour away from me). I feel like if you buy a quality tractor the likelihood of needing the dealer is slim. I would drive an hour on the rare occasion.

 

[Jim Timber]

1. The OP states in the 1st post that he is a complete newbie to tractors and then is looking at a 55 hp tractor . . . . Yet the balance of the posts are about warranty and resale price. "Complete newbie" . . . And 55 hp . . . "Having a bunch of dirt work" requires 55 hp????

Why would getting 55hp be in question?

I'm a first tractor owner, and I went with 65hp. I use my tractor to move dirt, run a stump grinder, root grapple, skidding winch, and will be adding a tiller at some point in the future.

Was I suppose to buy a smaller machine that wouldn't do my work first to then outgrow within the first 3 hours of use and regret, then trade up losing a couple thousand dollars to get into something capable of serving my needs?

As a new owner who did a ton of research before buying a full size utility tractor, my advice is buy enough machine from day 1!

Here's what that day looked like: 10 yards of stone at a time...

 

[Handloader109]

Can't comment on the Ops really use, but unless he trucks in a bunch of rock, he won't have any. Now that area does have some clay, so if you are digging any, you need a bit more than my 25hp
I did move my load of 16yds of dirt in about 3hours of machine time. And half of that was without rear weights making it small loads. (first time with fel still learning). After adding about 300pounds of cobbled together weights, I did not lift rear at all. Now to make it a permanent weight and easy to add/remove.

Back on topic, I've given him my biased perspective. And would say if anyone is interested in new tractor, they won't do any better. Especially if they are looking at anything other than orange. Any of the smaller brands can be eliminated at some point in time.

 

[JMER817]

+2 and 3 While out looking at new tractors with a friend this week ( he is looking at new cabbed tractors) I decided to price a couple myself and get some possible pricing and that means with and without the trade in of My 2 year old Kioti. What I find funny is that many people advised me that It would be a loss going with it if I wanted to trade it in or resell it a couple years because resale value would suck compared to JD or Kubota. Problem is THEY WERE VERY WRONG! I have now been offered by 3 different dealerships very similar amounts and all 3 offers have been better than any trade offer I ever had for any of my JD of Kubota tractors. The only time I can say I did better was when I traded my old New Holland and got more than I paid for it but that was more so due to the compact tractor market taking off and prices going up across the board for anything.

Is yours the pre tier IV? That could explain the higher offer.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Why would getting 55hp be in question?

I'm a first tractor owner, and I went with 65hp. I use my tractor to move dirt, run a stump grinder, root grapple, skidding winch, and will be adding a tiller at some point in the future.

Was I suppose to buy a smaller machine that wouldn't do my work first to then outgrow within the first 3 hours of use and regret, then trade up losing a couple thousand dollars to get into something capable of serving my needs?

As a new owner who did a ton of research before buying a full size utility tractor, my advice is buy enough machine from day 1!

I agree 100%... LOT'S of folks on this site are trading up, but not many are trading down...

I believe in buying the RIGHT tool in the first place and then KEEP it because it's doing the tough jobs long term...

SR

 

[Jim Timber]

I did move my load of 16yds of dirt in about 3hours of machine time.

Good lord, that's slow! I did 25 yards in 2 hours which included moving it 200' per 3/4 yard bucket full. The point is that each of us has different needs and acceptable work capacity. That I can't tow my tractor with anything short of a 3/4T truck is a deal breaker for some folks.

Is yours the pre tier IV? That could explain the higher offer.

I looked at the tier 2 (they went from 2 to 4) 5 series like mine on Tractor House the other day and they're listing for $5K more than I paid for mine with twice the hours on them than I have. If they're getting it? I can't say. But I can say they're asking for what a new one with similar options sells for off the order list.

 

[s219]

Really, it should come down to the size of implements you need to run and the amount of lift capacity needed on the front loader and/or 3-pt. I moved/spread many 16-ton truckloads of rock, dirt, and gravel with my previous smaller tractor and my current slightly larger tractor, and they performed about the same. Until you get into serious dirt work or excavation, size isn't a big factor other than time/speed. The bigger tractor can do it with fewer buckets, but the small tractor was equally capable at knocking down a pile.

 

[2ndhalf]

+2 and 3

While out looking at new tractors with a friend this week ( he is looking at new cabbed tractors) I decided to price a couple myself and get some possible pricing and that means with and without the trade in of My 2 year old Kioti. What I find funny is that many people advised me that It would be a loss going with it if I wanted to trade it in or resell it a couple years because resale value would suck compared to JD or Kubota. Problem is THEY WERE VERY WRONG! I have now been offered by 3 different dealerships very similar amounts and all 3 offers have been better than any trade offer I ever had for any of my JD of Kubota tractors. The only time I can say I did better was when I traded my old New Holland and got more than I paid for it but that was more so due to the compact tractor market taking off and prices going up across the board for anything.

Yeh, but your talking about a Kioti. The Kioti has been popular in the tractor circle for a long time and are starting to get a lot of brand recognition and dealerships. I could see them retaining their resale very well. Those dealers that are offering you a lot for your Kioti know that there are a lot of tractor guys out there who know about the Kioti.

I would like to hear from a TYM guy who has traded recently... did you get a good price for your trade? I will then gladly state that I was wrong... not problem at all doing that.

 

[k0ua]

Was I suppose to buy a smaller machine that wouldn't do my work first to then outgrow within the first 3 hours of use and regret, then trade up losing a couple thousand dollars to get into something capable of serving my needs?

Yes! you are supposed to buy a too small tractor first like most of us! While there is such a thing as too large of a tractor that won't fit where we need to go, most of us really appreciate your 2nd or 3rd tractor that is usually larger than our first tractors.

 

[Jim Timber]

Yes! you are supposed to buy a too small tractor first like most of us! While there is such a thing as too large of a tractor that won't fit where we need to go, most of us really appreciate your 2nd or 3rd tractor that is usually larger than our first tractors.

My second tractor will probably be smaller than your first one. If the stump grinding thing works out, I'll get a SCUT that can fit in a backyard to run another grinder. Or maybe I'll just build a self-propelled grinder next.