cable laying

[gabby]

edit... id make the wings adjustable so i could varry the depth based on need.

You don't need a spool. You can just lay the wire out to the side and have a helper guide it into the pipe by hand as you creep along.

I think your wing idea will just drag up piles of dirt and sod and be more hurt than help. Skid plates on the blade, away from the furrow, would be better because they will slide on undisturbed grass. However, I would just go real slow and control it with the 3ph and not worry about any skid plates.
gabby

 

[Mike120]

Thanks guys! I need to pull telephone and fiber over to my new barn (about 500'). I was not looking forward to fighting a trencher as I couldn't find a vibratory plow to rent. Rental cost for the trencher would probably be more than the cost of a sub-soiler and I'll have a new toy at the end!

 

[darkviper]

acutually i have made one of these for the exact application of installing radio fence for my pets. You do not wnat it deeper the 3 inches and a subsoiler sucks for this. I made wone from metal from tractor supply for aout 50 buck of materail and an hour of time with the right tools. I have the design in a autocad drawing. It attaches to my cultivator. I will try a get it posted

 

[kennyd]

Kennyd,

Nice setup. Good idea to adapt the trencher to your 2" receiver hitch, which matches up to your iMatch. Did you make the 2" receiver setup or did you purchase it?

Good idea to use a conduit 90, it has a nice even sweep.

What type of wire were you pulling in the picture? What was the project?

Did you have the reel on the tractor or did you have someone feed the wire into the conduit as you trenched forward?

How did it work? Did you have any problems? Would you do anything different?

Nice setup. Good idea to adapt the trencher to your 2" receiver hitch, which matches up to your iMatch. Did you make the 2" receiver setup or did you purchase it?
Thank you.
I made the receiver, mainly use it to move my trailer witch I keep in the woods.

Good idea to use a conduit 90, it has a nice even sweep.
It was cheap and easy, I used 1"...

What type of wire were you pulling in the picture? What was the project?
I pulled a 12-2 romex and a 5 pair 22awg BSW (Buried Service Wire) for a telephone and alarm to the location where I am going to build a shed, I did this when I built my house and before the lawn was in.

Did you have the reel on the tractor or did you have someone feed the wire into the conduit as you trenched forward?
No reel, I just laid the wire out on the ground and fed it myself as I drove forward. I only needed to go 225' and it was a straight run. If I had to go around corners or turn I would have rigged it onto the tractor.

How did it work? Did you have any problems? Would you do anything different?

It worked GREAT! I did make a "dry run" with it first to loosen the soil as I have clay and shale.
No problems! The wire was buried about 12" deep.
If I was going to use it more, I would find a better way to attach the conduit, it got real loose at the end of the run and probably would have come off soon. I would (and may in the future) weld a piece of 1" angle to the back of the ripper tooth to "cradle" the conduit, and hose clamp the conduit to the angle. Does that make sense? I can explain better if need be...

I think dog fence wire this setup would be perfect. You can use 1/2" or 3/4" conduit, it would be easy to hang the spool or reel on the ROPS to feed down into the conduit. Just be sure to plan your route through the yard and not make real tight turns if you can avoid them.

 

[Neophyte]

Kennyd,

You could always use a metallic conduit 90, which may reduce the need for the angle support.

 

[kennyd]

Kennyd,

You could always use a metallic conduit 90, which may reduce the need for the angle support.

The problem I had at the end was that the round conduit kept wanting to "roll" off of the ripper shank. With the angle iron "point" welded to the shank like this >- (top view), the conduit would rest in the "V" of the angle and thus could not roll off.

Clear as mud?

 

[johnnylight]

kennyd,

I just picked up The king kutter subsoiler from TSC am ready to start the mods.
Did you resolve the rolling issue?

Thanks

 

[kennyd]

kennyd,

I just picked up The king kutter subsoiler from TSC am ready to start the mods.
Did you resolve the rolling issue?

Thanks

No, Only because I haven't used it again, no wire to bury!

But, as i showed in previous post's, just a 1" peice of angle iron would be all that is needed.

Good luck

 

[Harry c]

I plowed in an Invisible Fence several years ago with my old Cub Cadet lawn tractor. I used my Brinley cultivator with all but 1 tine removed. You don't need a huge cut from a turning plow or such. It just makes it harder to backfill and clean up. I used a couple of hose clamps to hold a piece of 1/2 inch metal conduit to the back of the tine. Put the clamps around the tine and conduit with the conduit extending down to 1/2 inch or so from the tip of the tine. The conduit was just a straight piece, 6 or 8 inches long. No bevels, bends, etc. The wire is only going through it once so abrasion is not a problem. Insulation's not a concern with the invisible fence anyway. I used a bent coat hanger to hold the spool of wire and let it roll off. I stripped off about 10 feet of wire before I started plowing. By the time the wire pulled forward to the start of the cut, the dirt provided plenty of resistance to spool off the wire. I put in 1,000 ft of wire in about 20 minutes. You just need this stuff under the ground. 3-4 inches is enough. Deeper is not better in this case. After the wire is pulled in, just drive back over the cut and the tractor wheels will pack the dirt back in the narrow trench.

The whole process worked great. It worked so well in fact that last year I installed an irrigation system inn my lawn by pulling in 1 inch PVC (yeah, that's 1 inch PVC, the white stuff) Note: I "pulled in" the irrigation pipe not "plowed in" as the wire above. But that's another thread for another day if anyone is interested.

 

[WVBill]

Here's my post from a couple of years ago with pictures. Same technique others have used (subsoiler/middle buster with 90 degree metal conduit sweep).

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/projects/14926-laying-pipe.html?highlight=laying+pipe

WVBill