California Drought

[lilranch2001]

Back when I submitted the somewhat snarky comment that us mideesterners would wave bye bye, I was partially alluding or trying to the upcoming costs of maintaining cali along with so many other negative aspects of that state.
Yes, the state is a beautiful state
Yes it has huge economy
But......
It also has so many huge negatives
Sometimes some of the liberals out there do not see or understand that when that government collapses how big of a thud that there will be!

I don't think many of us conservatives want to be in the way of that shock wave!!

 

[California]

Here's someone who has posted a sequence of short flyovers showing the day to day events at the Oroville Dam spillway.

oroville dam spillway - Album on Imgur

And his March 1 update. These are the best pictures I've seen to date of equipment working on the channel cleanout.

oroville dam spillway (mar 1 update) - Album on Imgur


Here's the longer DWR flyover that some of the clips above were excerpts from.

Lake Oroville Spillway March 1, 217 - YouTube


And DWR's Recent News index with links to their incident report and current videos. This is the real information, while the scare youtube vids aren't worth watching.

California Department of Water Resources

 

[ForestGrump]

Yes... the chickens are coming home to roost and government pensions are the elephant in the room...

My friend was the city manager of your childhood city and the biggest concern was promised pensions... I saw the graphs and pensions would consume the entire budget if nothing changed.

I only expect it to get worse as time goes on and can only become an ecomomic incentive for those with options to look elsewhere...

Mom's property tax increased 33% this year... even with Prop 13 which hold increases to 2%... but does not apply to voter approved ballot measures... anyone that owns property is a target...

There is all kinds or pressure to increase water/sewer rates and electric and gas are/have had large increases...

I have managed rentals for years... my city has now imposed a requirement that the Rent Board must approve improvements and owners cannot over improve... yes... it says this!

I'm going to call you on the property tax comment. Please detail how her tax bill, mailed by the county tax accessor increased 33%. Mine hasn't.

 

[houstonscott]

The State of California is required to deposit their part of State employees retirement money into the employees retirement account. The so called matching dollars. The State has not done this now for decades. Now the State is behind by such a large amount means future retirees will not be payed. State retirees are beginning to find out that their retirements are not worth half of what they think they are going to receive. NY and many large municipalities are in similar situations. Those left in the work place are going to get taxed to try to quell and put off the coming realization of what's to come and how the small guy (teacher, cops, State employees) are going to react when they find out their retirement payments maybe pennies on the dollar unless the Feds bale them out. It's coming, get ready, no way to fix it.

 

[ultrarunner]

When are you going to throw in the towel and move out of that state? Haven't you had enough?

I figure it's a small sacrifice to help Mom...

Thought she might agree to Washington State and she really does like spending time there but home is home...

Plenty of filling stations around here around the $3 per gallon mark... some higher and some lower.

There is a new fee going on vehicle registration to fund Highway Patrol retirements....

 

[ultrarunner]

I'm going to call you on the property tax comment. Please detail how her tax bill, mailed by the county tax accessor increased 33%. Mine hasn't.

Easy... comparing last year's tax bill to this year's property tax bill for the vacant lot that is Mom's backyard... the tax bill was 3k and this year it is 4k.

It's ironic in that the Property tax portion is only a few hundred dollars... the parcel taxes which I think there are more than 25 are the rest.

The voters in my city/county passed huge parcel taxes for several things... one is for BART that is already being called a fraud because it was sold to maintain the system and now a 1/3 may go for BART pensions.

BART Measure RR tax could be four times original claim

and here is how some of BART's taxpayer money is spent...

Cameras catch BART janitor who made $27, in a year spending hours in Powell St. closet - SFGate

The California Drought often refers to a Lack of Funds or Funding Drought... I have heard this at city council meetings.

 

[hawkeye08]

They (city, county, state, federal) are constantly adding fees and taxes.

 

[ForestGrump]

Easy... comparing last year's tax bill to this year's property tax bill for the vacant lot that is Mom's backyard... the tax bill was 3k and this year it is 4k.

It's ironic in that the Property tax portion is only a few hundred dollars... the parcel taxes which I think there are more than 25 are the rest.

The voters in my city/county passed huge parcel taxes for several things... one is for BART that is already being called a fraud because it was sold to maintain the system and now a 1/3 may go for BART pensions.

BART Measure RR tax could be four times original claim

and here is how some of BART's taxpayer money is spent...

Cameras catch BART janitor who made $27�,��� in a year spending hours in Powell St. closet - SFGate

The California Drought often refers to a Lack of Funds or Funding Drought... I have heard this at city council meetings.

So the property tax is within 2% but she had the opportunity through voting to add specific bonds, measures and fees to be collected and paid along with her property tax bill. Is that correct? She evidently owns two parcels, a parcel being box 1 of the property tax bill and identified by a parcel #. Her property taxes did not increase by more than 2% but items she and her neighbors voted for and were passed are now collected by the accessor and added to the property tax bill, is that not right?

If so, quit bashing California, get real and I suggest a move to Wisconsin where I know a certain real property tax was in '93 about $2500 and now is greater than $25,000 and they didn't get to vote on nothing.

On important thing we voted on up here was the Hospital Improvement Debt. We are only 5-10 minutes to Loma Linda by air ambulance and our hospital is very small but very important. For years the people have voted against it but this past year it passed. Choppers can't always fly, downhill road trip is one to 3 hours depending upon conditions if the road is open. Now our hospital was granted special rural status and is aligning with Loma Linda. Am I happy to pay the extra $146, you bet.

BTW Parcel=Property! Check her/your tax bill again as far as the property tax portion being a few hundred, if so she bought it many moons ago, be happy.

As far as BART that's their problem! If you/she don't like how these fees, debts and bonds are spent then vote and be proactive but blaming on property taxes in really a big stretch.

I haven't heard the California drought refer to anything...

Come on get fair, get accurate...

 

[TemporaryKubotaOwnerMark]

A better analogy is, If your downspout leaks, the roof isn't broken.

Hmmm. No. I get the idea, but the way it's worded isn't valid. A leaking downspout does not mean the roof is okay.

If your downspout leaks, it has nothing to do with the roof, either way. Your roof could be in terrible shape or brand new. A downspout problem is a downspout problem, not a roof problem.

A spillway problem is a spillway problem, not a dam problem.

Which, of course, is your point, but the way you said it just doesn't work.

 

[TomSeller]

States cities and counties ought to do what Trump did and put a halt to new hires. The more they hire, the more pensions will need to be paid. Crazy when the largest employer in many areas is some form of the government. Everything is upside down.

Too bad CA won't put those deadbeat homeless men they are providing housing for to work fixing that spillway. That'd be the best thing for them.

I understand there are homeless in need but I bet 70% of them are just bums.