Can of worms

[JDGREEN4ME]

Can of worms? what can of worms? As the old saying goes "opinions are like noses, everybody has one". The neat thing is we can do what we want. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[DmansPadge]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Can of worms? what can of worms? As the old saying goes "opinions are like noses, everybody has one". The neat thing is we can do what we want. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif )</font>You said it! Man, some of these guys can be harsh when they want to be! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif Everyone has their own opinions and that is just fine with me. However, like a lot of others, I don't believe the initial post was right on the money.I hope I used proper english or Bob might correct me!! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif Just jacking with you Bob.

 

[Hysyde]

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Truley large hp JD tractors are frowned upon by those that know. Nearly any other brand of big 4wd tractor beats them in one way or another - either more power, more durable, or easier to get off-the-shelf parts to fix ecconomically. If you meant mid-sized 2wd/ FWA ag tractors, JD has a good rep - but _not_ the large machines. The large JD had some _real_ issues, none good.

In the 60's Gleaner was toe to toe with JD on combines, one offered good value & easy to work on, the other slightly more rugged for more $$$in purchase & parts & labor. In the 70's the 4400 & 6600 & 7700 were top dog around the midwest. In 2000, the only game in town is the Case rotories. I see 4 new of those on farms around me for any one new machine of all others combined. It is amazing how much Case has taken over the combine market up here.

I happen to own 4 different colors of tractors, and yet a different brand of combine. I might be not too terribly biased.

--->Paul )</font>

Okay, I'm curious. What are the specific problems with the big JDs? Are you talking articulates specifically or just the high hp, large tractors? I ask because large JDs seem to be all the rage around here. Granted some of the bigger farms have been JD loyal for years, but I sure see a lot of big JDs. Of course I see a lot of other stuff (mostly CaseIH or NH), but the JDs seem to be the most prominent.

As for combines.... they almost ALL seem to be JDs. Either rotary or strawwalkers. Yes, the odd other brand, but not much, especially when talking about newer machines.

 

[jwnge]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You got me. The potato farmers up here used to rave about IH and Steiger. I have no idea if that's still the case. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif )</font> They were both the "CASE" for a while and now CNH.. couldn't resist.. John /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[johndeere2210]

The early articulated 4WD JD's were notorious for having major engine problems between 4000 and 5000 engine hours. The later models (50 and 60 series) had electrical problems and driveline problems. The late 9000 series are pretty dependable tractors with the only problem being hydraulic, more specifically SCV and coupler problems. I should qualify this statement by saying that I only see the worst of the worst and for every tractor I see with problems, there are ten that have not had any problems.

Personally, if I were in a position to buy a new large tractor and had the choice, I would go for an 8000 series with MFWD. They have been virtually bullet proof and in the event service work is needed, they are much easier to work on than any articulated 4WD.

Possibly the reason for seeing a lot of CIH combines is that they were offering some serious incentives for people to trade from green.