Can you tell if I have "power beyond"?

   / Can you tell if I have "power beyond"? #1  

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Does this pic. show enough to tell if I have "power beyond"?

When I read and look at some of the info regarding this I feel like my grey matter is lacking power some where.:D

I'm interested in adding T&T to my Kub B 2910 with a LA 403 FEL.

Thanks for any and all replies and suggestions.

Don't take and lighted fire crackers!:rolleyes:
 

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   / Can you tell if I have "power beyond"? #2  
Any nameplate on the valve? my KMW loader on my mahindra has a NIMCO valve. The brand and model will allow a quick internet search. Also if it is power beyond you should see a pipe plug on the opposite side fron the oil inlet. probably the style plug with the recessed hex drive.
 
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I can't see from the pictures, but if there are 7 hoses connected to the valve, then you have PB.
There will be 4 from the work ports going to the loader cylinders...
1 hose from the pump, usually marked IN or P (pressure) on the valve...
1 hose to the tank, usually marked OUT or T (tank)...
And IF you have PB, 1 marked B (beyond) going to the 3PH.
 
   / Can you tell if I have "power beyond"? #4  
Norris, I'm not positive, but pretty sure, your FEL valve was made by Husco and has power beyond, but I also think the B2910 has the auxilliary hydraulic outlet that my B2710 had, which is what I used for the top 'n tilt that I added; much simpler in my opinion.
 
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#5  
Thank you Marcel, Ken and Bird. That was a quick reply from you gents.
I'll start giving a closer look tomorrow.
I am very apprehensive about tackling the installation of T&T.
Not knowing the correct term for all the parts and workings makes me keep thinking of the old saying "a little knowledge is........."
But then they also say "nothing ventured........."
If I ever get T&T I'll post with some pics.

Thanks again and I'll still appreciate any others that have suggestion and advice.

Happy 4th to all. God bless US All!
 
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Norris, in the event you don't know where the auxilliary hydraulic outlet is, I thought maybe I could find some pictures of mine to show you. I know back when I was doing it, one dealer knew there was an auxilliary outlet, but didn't know where and another dealer didn't even know one existed. Unfortunately, I can't find any really good pictures, but . . . the first picture shows the little plate that covers that outlet. You remove that plate and replace it with an outlet block. The second picture shows two hydraulic hoses on the right side going down in front of the ROPS to that outlet below the rockshaft. Hope this helps. Incidentally, the color is bad on the first picture. It should be the same gray as the rest of the gray on the tractor.
 

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Thank you Bird, The picture helped.
I started to PM you but dicided that maybe this thread would help others if I kept it open longer.
Please take a look at this pic and confirm or correct the Hyd outlet location.

If "this is the place" does it allow connection of two hoses, one for inlet and one for outlet?

And do those two hoses connect to the control valves for T&T?

Man on man, I'm really asking a lot. Hope you don't get tired of my questions.

Thanks again.
Now let's see if the pic will load.
 

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   / Can you tell if I have "power beyond"? #8  
I am glad you didn't take this post underground (PM) as more of us were learning from it.
David from jax
 
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Yep, looks like you found it.;) When you take out those two little bolts (10mm? maybe) and remove that little plate, you'll find the weirdest shaped serpentire O-ring and I guess you could say a big groove in the plate, and two holes in the housing that you remove it from. In other words, the hydraulic fluid is currently coming out of one hole, through that plate, and back in the other hole, continuously circulating. You have to buy the auxilliary hydraulic outlet block (I believe that's what they called it). It will come with new, slightly longer bolts, and new O-ring, and bolts on right in place of that little plate, then it has the connections for the two hydraulic hoses. You do, of course, need an "open center" hydraulic valve because then your hydraulic fluid will be continuously circulating through that valve; a single spool if you only want hydraulic top link, two spool if you want hydraulic top link AND a hydraulic side link. I hooked mine up direct, although you can instead use quick couplers and have two pair of remotes if you have any other use for them.

Now the hydraulic fluid is currently going through that plate enroute to the 3-point hitch, so if you add the top 'n tilt, and you are extending or retracting one of those cylinders, you cannot raise the 3-point at the same time; i.e., the new valve takes precedence over the 3-point. Of course that never bothered me because I don't have enough hands to work that many valves at once anyway.;) And the 3-point will still work the same as always as long as you're not using the other valve at the same time.
 
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Bird, you sound like a knowledgeable guy so let me ask a dumb question.
I've owned lots of tractors and have 2 now but I don't know what FEL means.
Can you help?.........rsfire@oroville.com
 

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