Can't Believe the Difference!

[CT_Tree_Guy]

Re: Can\'t Believe the Difference!

RaT -

I'd like to start with my usual disclaimer that I truly respect your experience and many fine posts, but I find myself having to very strongly disagree with you.

It was NOT star date 5907, it was much earlier, star date 5527.6 IIRC, and it was NOT beryllium crystals but rather DILITHIUM crystals from the mining colony on Alpha Tau Epsilon, in the Gamma Quadrant, which were used to create the co-polymers of which you speak. (If it will help jog your memory, that's the same episode where Kirk "gets lucky" with the leader of the Epsilons, and Spock loses his brain). In your defense, those co-polymers were indeed used to constitute <font color="blue"> "the esters used as base stock in most of today's better synthetics". </font>

Sorry we had to "cross pens" -

John D.

PS Cobras kick a$$

 

[Dargo]

Re: Can\'t Believe the Difference!

I have to assume that you are not aware that oil, or most any substance, be synthesized both biogenically and abiotically. Oil can be produced in the lab from both organic and inorganic materials. Transforming organic and inorganic materials into oil is not something that occurs only in old and dusty academic journals; it is very real and reports on this point can be found even on the internet. Making oil from organic substances not only was done in the lab in the past, but that it is done all the time and has been done commercially since the mid 19th century! The process that produces oil from the pyrolysis of its organic precursor ("kerogen") can be reproduced in the lab in a common test set-up called "rock evaluation" (rock eval for short) invented in 1977 and commonly carried out to characterize the oil producing potential of rocks. It is also possible to make commercial amounts of oil from the same organic precursor that commonly occurs in shales.

It is rather old thinking that oil is actually derived from decaying dinosaurs. Science has actually progressed from the early 1900's. The Earth does produce abiotic methane. We all recall that the Germans produced oil and diesel fuel from methane in ****** days. You may want to research some of the work done by the University of Toronto lead by Dr. Barbara Sherwood Lollar. Some of the findings were recently noted on CNN as well as Fox News.

So, based on recent (last 100 years or so) science, your theory on all oil being based on organic matter does not flow. Whether you use conventional motor oil or synthetic oil matters not to me. I just thought that it was an interesting concept you had, except the basis for the entire theory is flawed. Although it is not cost effective, it is very possible to create genuine oil in the lab.

 

[kenmac]

Re: Can\'t Believe the Difference!

Thanks Dargo, haven't seen you in a while

 

[_RaT_]

Re: Can\'t Believe the Difference!

Your right, my mind was stuck on Kirk getting lucky with the ladys that ruled the planet where the women were more like men and the men more like women. Nonetheless, Kirk still hit on them. I can't recall the stardate, for some reason those women cause me to loose focus and forget all about stardates and rock formations. While they were cruel, there was something about them that drew me to them, much like a moth to a flame. I believe one of them was known as Ester and thus the origins of the componet used in some synthetics.

 

[TOMLESCOEQUIP]

Re: Can\'t Believe the Difference!

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I believe one of them was known as Ester and thus the origins of the componet used in some synthetics. )</font>Don't forget her 1/2 sister "POLLY" who gave the world the now infamous scientific discovery "doubleknit" (the basic genetic structure of the leisure suit; stardate 1977.3)

 

[CT_Tree_Guy]

Re: Can\'t Believe the Difference!

RaT -

I hear you on how easy it is to get the episodes confused, especially since there's only one where Kirk doesn't actually further "interstellar relations" with the foxy female leader of the planet. In that episode, a close encounter with an ionized globular singularity caused Kirk to have a little problem with ... well ... let's just say the "Captain's Log" was temporarily offline.

Ditto's on those she-male vixens, I was equally mesmerized and distracted. Something about them .... I think it was their really big ..... brains. I remember Ester well, and her sister Polly. I could have gone for them in a big way - curse the Prime Directive!

Anyway, I'm glad we got this ironed out, I just wanted to make sure the Epsilons got their due credit in the long, and often very boring saga of the history of petrochemicals.

Live long and prosper,

John

Oh yeah - just to stay on topic ..... oil.

 

[California]

Re: Can\'t Believe the Difference!

Beam me up Scotty, ..........................

 

[kenmac]

Re: Can\'t Believe the Difference!

Maybe this will help you with where it comes from

 

[TOMLESCOEQUIP]

Re: Can\'t Believe the Difference!

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Those Klingons know their lubricants.............but I dona comprend tha language too awfa well ?

 

[kenmac]

Re: Can\'t Believe the Difference!

now that didn't come from my linc.Ya musta drank too much synthetic /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif