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fatjay
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You're telling me! I stood a cinder block on end and was litterally jumping on it. In the end I propped the one side up on a jack stand and just stomped on it until it came free.
Can't just retube that
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Not so bad, just need to clean up the inside a bit to be smooth.
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Did you use really old metal?
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Yes I did. About 10 years ago I found some steel sheets in the back field. just laying there, completely grown over. No idea how long they'd been there. I hit them with the wire wheel and cleaned them up and have used them for various projects. They're a bit thicker than 1/4".
fidowanttobe
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20 years or so ago I bought a manual tire changer from Homier/Harbor Freight. I made a bracket so it slipped into a receiver hitch as I didn't want to give up the floorspace permanently. That tool has paid for itself probably more times than any other tool that I own.
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The old bumper jacks worked great for this.
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I also made a receiver mount for my HF tire remover. I think eventually the wheel bolt hole pin broke, and I still need to repair it.
I did use it at least once on the road when I got a flat trailer tire, and discovered the spare tire rim had gone bad and wasn't holding air. Other times I could have used it, but didn't have it built yet.
I now have a shop tire changer which is much nicer to use.
CH4Ohio
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You "wrassled" the old tire off of there "by hand"?? Did you cut it off? Wasn't that a heavy-ply implement tire?
Can't tell what size that rim is, but I've found them on Marketplace (sometimes with usable tires on them) for $20 - $50. You've already got $200 worth of sweat into this one. And using old metal to match the finish shows maximum attention to detail!
Tell you what -- if I win a jacket in the giveaway, I'm going to send it straight to you! People would watch this on a reality show . . . No kidding, you could sell tickets!
Can't tell what size that rim is, but I've found them on Marketplace (sometimes with usable tires on them) for $20 - $50. You've already got $200 worth of sweat into this one. And using old metal to match the finish shows maximum attention to detail!
Tell you what -- if I win a jacket in the giveaway, I'm going to send it straight to you! People would watch this on a reality show . . . No kidding, you could sell tickets!
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BTW, now that you have nothing going on, whatever happened with your skidsteer re-power?
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I'm editing it into a video, here's the one removing the tire.You "wrassled" the old tire off of there "by hand"?? Did you cut it off? Wasn't that a heavy-ply implement tire?
Can't tell what size that rim is, but I've found them on Marketplace (sometimes with usable tires on them) for $20 - $50. You've already got $200 worth of sweat into this one. And using old metal to match the finish shows maximum attention to detail!
Tell you what -- if I win a jacket in the giveaway, I'm going to send it straight to you! People would watch this on a reality show . . . No kidding, you could sell tickets!
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Nothing going on? haha, man i'll tell you.
I have to fix the tractor so I can move in out of the way of the shed, so i can get 2 tractors into the shed, so i can fix the kubota loader bucket. So i can move the skid steer out of the old shop that I'm cleaning out, so i can enclose that and make it another bedroom, to make room for the new addition. And I still have a car port to design and erect to have more solar. And I have to move one of the chicken coops 8' to the side because the zoning guy complained that it's to close to a property line. But I have my daughters mini that blew a clutch line in the bay that i want to put the bobcat while i repower it. Not to mention i need to dispose of a down tree that's blocking the entrance to the field that i need to till under so it'll be ready for the spring.
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So, not real soon I guess? 
CH4Ohio
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LOL!!! That's great. When it takes a weed-eater and a leaf blower to prep for a tire change, you know it's going to be good!
I really want to see how you dismounted that tire. With a little editing, you might have the Pennsylvania version of Clarkson Farm!
Wish I still had your energy! Too funny!!
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More like this!
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Order of projects is dictated by necessity. Soon as I need the bobcat, it'll get bumped to head of line.So, not real soon I guess?
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Cleaned up the inside, went to mount the tube, and it was the wrong size... Completely ruined my motivation for the evening.
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Went through hell getting the tire off, but I got it off. Wire wheel'd the whole thing. All the metal is in good shape, it's just that spot. I think water got in through the valve stem and just rotted that specific spot.
I have seen that on a number of rear wheels. The generations before me used corrosive additives to keep water (weight) from freezing in the tubes. Get a puncture in the tube and it begins to take its toll on metal.
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fatjay
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Wheel's repaired, new tube hole drilled, deburred, and tapered, new tube. I bought the HF tire changer to get the tire back on. Everyone on youtube is dealing with nice fresh rubbery tires that stretch. This old tire does not want to stretch. Plus it's quite cold out.
I got 80% on and lost it, and gave up for the night.
I got 80% on and lost it, and gave up for the night.
CH4Ohio
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You need to keep the tire pushed down off the lip of the wheel so it’s in the middle section of the wheel. That way it can move quite a bit from side to side and allows you to roll the bead over the wheel rim without actually stretching the tire.
You need a helper or a clamp or something to push the tire down at about the 6 o-clock position. If it’s down and off the edge of the rim you’ll be able to roll the rest of it into place.
Wish I could explain it better. But the tire bead can’t be in its final position until the tire is completely mounted. They really don’t stretch overall. Need to allow the whole tire to move directionally as you work it onto the rim. The bead OPPOSITE where you're prying can't be "set" -- must be pushed down on the wheel where the diameter of the rim is much less and the tire can move in the direction that you're prying.
Edit -- In other words, pay close attention to the opposite side from wherever you're prying. In order to work the tire bead over the edge and onto the rim, you have to keep the OPPOSITE side pushed down into the belly of the wheel so the whole tire can shift your direction a bit and allow it to roll onto the rim.
I'm sure you're using a lot of lube. That's also key.
Nice job on a wheel rim that I would have scrapped!
You need a helper or a clamp or something to push the tire down at about the 6 o-clock position. If it’s down and off the edge of the rim you’ll be able to roll the rest of it into place.
Wish I could explain it better. But the tire bead can’t be in its final position until the tire is completely mounted. They really don’t stretch overall. Need to allow the whole tire to move directionally as you work it onto the rim. The bead OPPOSITE where you're prying can't be "set" -- must be pushed down on the wheel where the diameter of the rim is much less and the tire can move in the direction that you're prying.
Edit -- In other words, pay close attention to the opposite side from wherever you're prying. In order to work the tire bead over the edge and onto the rim, you have to keep the OPPOSITE side pushed down into the belly of the wheel so the whole tire can shift your direction a bit and allow it to roll onto the rim.
I'm sure you're using a lot of lube. That's also key.
Nice job on a wheel rim that I would have scrapped!
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CH4Ohio
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And if someone helps you, don’t let them get their fingers pinched. (Ask me how I know …)
