Car dealership is a crook.

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I am still curious how we are over 6K apart. I went to Kelly Blue Book. Did you, or did your expereince just tell you, you are right?

The problem, these days is everyone's feeling is involved. Used to be a way to do things, and things got done. Now a guy winds up on Barbara Walters or the witness stand.

N.A.D.A. but as LD stated, as of now it does not matter what the value of the car is nor how justified the buyer or seller was in entertaining that figure except for one thing: If the dealership felt they made enough of money on the deal as I suspect, they could have at least offered to repair the problem. It is simply human nature that if you made an 8K profit as opposed to a $400 one, you'd be more prone to lend a hand. Car dealerships seemed to have learned that whenever they lend a hand, they will be inundated with people's complaints about silly things and thus they draw a hard line right off the bat. Even this can be worked out. After I quit logging, I sold cars and trucks for 19 years at a Chrysler dealership. It was a bit less dangerous.

Everything I see from NADA (which btw is used at most dealerships) relates they made some big money on this vehicle. They should have been more accommodating to Ld's cousin as a result.
I have no clue what you are trying to say about "feelings" or Barbara Walters.

 

[Ford850]

(there's a 70% chance your HVAC system for your home wasn't even made in the lower 48 as there are only two manufacturers who manufacturer their entire residential line in the United States LOL).

Honestly, I'm surprised there are any. Who are those 2 manufacturers?

 

[Sigarms]

Honestly, I'm surprised there are any. Who are those 2 manufacturers?

Goodman manufacturing (Ironcially now owned by Daiken from Japan) out of Texas. Not 100% certain if their commercial plant is in Tennessee or Texas, as I don't remember seeing any commercial equipment in Texas.

York (owned by Johnson Controls, Wisconsin), whose residential line is 100% in Wichita Kansas and their commercial line 100% in Norman Oklahoma.

No word of a lie... take one manufacturers plant tour and your bus is in a motorcade with armed guards, and no, it wasn't Camden or Newark, but across the border south.

 

[kcflhrc]

How in the world did this thread go from a Jeep transfer case issue to an HVAC thread?????????????????????????

 

[Zerk]

Do you actually know how many Honda (and Toyota for that matter) are actually produced in the US, employing US citizens?

I have absolutely NO doubt that some of the products you buy and use are NOT made in America (there's a 70% chance your HVAC system for your home wasn't even made in the lower 48 as there are only two manufacturers who manufacturer their entire residential line in the United States LOL).

I've been more than happy with my Toyota trucks, added I probably have a total of about 14k into my Avalon including ALL service (less oil changes) and still going strong at 350k or so on the odometer.

Do you actually know where they were made? Many lazy people say many are made here, but don't check.

My trucks were made in Indiana. Bikes in PA.

I check labels quite often.

Did I ever say all I buy is American? I have noticed you make a lot of assumptions.

 

[CajunRider]

How in the world did this thread go from a Jeep transfer case issue to an HVAC thread?????????????????????????

It's to keep us cool.

 

[Sigarms]

Do you actually know where they were made? Many lazy people say many are made here, but don't check.

My trucks were made in Indiana. Bikes in PA.

I check labels quite often.

Did I ever say all I buy is American? I have noticed you make a lot of assumptions.

1 - Yes. Between the actual vehicle AND engine.

2 - Good for you!

3 - Good for you again!

4 - No, you did not say all you buy is American, and you're right, it was an assumption. I find it ironic and so hypocritical when someone refuses to buy something other than American car but has no issue with owning anything else made outside of America.

 

[Zerk]

N.A.D.A. but as LD stated, as of now it does not matter what the value of the car is nor how justified the buyer or seller was in entertaining that figure except for one thing: If the dealership felt they made enough of money on the deal as I suspect, they could have at least offered to repair the problem. It is simply human nature that if you made an 8K profit as opposed to a $400 one, you'd be more prone to lend a hand. Car dealerships seemed to have learned that whenever they lend a hand, they will be inundated with people's complaints about silly things and thus they draw a hard line right off the bat. Even this can be worked out. After I quit logging, I sold cars and trucks for 19 years at a Chrysler dealership. It was a bit less dangerous.

Everything I see from NADA (which btw is used at most dealerships) relates they made some big money on this vehicle. They should have been more accommodating to Ld's cousin as a result.
I have no clue what you are trying to say about "feelings" or Barbara Walters.

I just looked it up in NADA. Pretty much set as kbb. 25k for top model.


Did you really look it up?

 

[Industrial Toys]

A few years ago a friends SantaFe tranny or possibly transfer case packed up within a couple of weeks of the warranty ending. Her and her BF had actually bought two identical vehicles at the same time. Hyundai would do nothing for her. A deal is a deal and a contract is a contract, I guess.

I mean, turn the situation around. A dealer doesn't call you later asking for more money, because they figure they sold the vehicle too cheap. If your worried about getting a used Lemon, buy new, or buy insurance, otherwise you have to take your chances.

 

[Zerk]

1 -I find it ironic and so hypocritical when someone refuses to buy something other than American car but has no issue with owning anything else made outside of America.

Ahhh, which of your posts should I quote.

Many products are not made in the US, so you have no choice. Cars are big ticket items with more impact.

My side by side was made in Nebraska. It does bother me the corporation is over seas. But Polaris did not make one in the size I wanted.


Even when buying imports, I select which country when I can. China is a evil country, and potentially an enemy. I would rather send money a country that we will not have a risk of going to war with.