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Being loyal to an Insurance Company can be costly. It called rate creep or "price optimized".

How loyal insurance customers can pay higher rates - CBS News

"Most consumers accepted modest annual rate hikes without balking."

That's an interesting article, thanks for posting it. It's true most consumers will accept a modest rate hike ... chalk it up to inflation. However AMFAM hiked my rate by 38% this year! Modest is one thing but greed is another. I'm in the process of switching to USAA.
 
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#32  
"Most consumers accepted modest annual rate hikes without balking."

That's an interesting article, thanks for posting it. It's true most consumers will accept a modest rate hike ... chalk it up to inflation. However AMFAM hiked my rate by 38% this year! Modest is one thing but greed is another. I'm in the process of switching to USAA.

I didn't mention in my original post, they are hitting me with a 20% increase. The world I know at least will hear about it. I let it ride all those years, actually think the premiums were ok, but what I missed, is as soon as they have a claim they put the screws to you, NO MATTER WHAT. They will recoup practically the whole claim they had to pay in three years.....I ain't going to let them...it is why I'm switching..NO MATTER WHAT, just like them.
 
   / Car/house insurance #33  
Funny, it's not insurance but related to rate increases..
My Termite company sent me an annual renewal notice stating my yearly rate was increasing from $85.00 per yr to $170.00 per yr.
I called them and told them to cancel my termite contract. When they asked why, I told them because of the increase, I was going to shop around.. They said If they keep my renewal at the current rate of $85.00 would I satay with them ? I said yes. They said to send them a check for $85.00 for the next year's renewal. LOL

My alarm monitoring company tried the same thing. I told them to cancel . They said they would leave me at the same monitoring rate..

Don't let these insurance companies play games with you. Call around. It won't cost you a dime to check prices with other companes
 
   / Car/house insurance #34  
This happened with a boat policy... and they waved the increase.

Yesterday it happened with the newspaper subscription... was thinking of cancelling anyway... but the lady was so nice on the phone and waived the 37% increase I said OK
 
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#35  
This happened with a boat policy... and they waved the increase.

Yesterday it happened with the newspaper subscription... was thinking of cancelling anyway... but the lady was so nice on the phone and waived the 37% increase I said OK

It was the FIRST thing I told them....big company, local agent can't do a thing.
 
   / Car/house insurance #36  
Funny, it's not insurance but related to rate increases..
My Termite company sent me an annual renewal notice stating my yearly rate was increasing from $85.00 per yr to $170.00 per yr.
I called them and told them to cancel my termite contract. When they asked why, I told them because of the increase, I was going to shop around.. They said If they keep my renewal at the current rate of $85.00 would I satay with them ? I said yes. They said to send them a check for $85.00 for the next year's renewal. LOL

My alarm monitoring company tried the same thing. I told them to cancel . They said they would leave me at the same monitoring rate..

Don't let these insurance companies play games with you. Call around. It won't cost you a dime to check prices with other companes

I do this with my Satellite TV provider. Every 6 mo or so their rates rise. I check what I would get as a new customer and what the competition costs. I call to disconnect and low and behold they find a discount I am eligible for that gets me right back to the price I was paying before the increase. It might be few dollars more than if I switched, but not so much more that I want to take the time of being home when the dude comes out to install the new service etc.

As for the homeowners insurance, I would shop that at least every two years. Same with the car insurance. Even if you did not have a claim you will be able to reduce your rates.

Why have loyalty to a big insurance company? They have none to you.
 
   / Car/house insurance #37  
Why have loyalty to a big insurance company? They have none to you.

I have no idea why some people stay with their insurance company forever. My MIL is like that. Since she's been with Alfa for 40 yrs, she thinks she owes it to them to stay with them.
For the life of me I can't understand why she doesn't just check prices of other companies. It ain't like she's got something to lose !
 
   / Car/house insurance #38  
For those of you thinking about Amica, they offered me an initial low rate, then jacked it up by 20% for each of the following two years.

Switched to Liberty Mutual, and they're doing the same thing.

I live in wildfire country (just had a very close call this week) and a lot of the major companies like AAA, Nationwide, State Farm, Farmers, Allstate, Geico, Progressive won't write a policy here. So I'm all ears hoping to hear of new companies I can try when I shop around in a month or so.
 
   / Car/house insurance #39  
I currently have Erie for everything.

I agree with others that it is worth shopping around every few years.

I am also not loyal to one company. But have 4 different policy's that I prefer to ALL be with the same company. Thats personal auto on 3 vehicles, Commercial auto for my truck, business liability to cover my ventures with the tractor as well as snowplowing for whatever part the commercial truck ins dont cover. And my house.

When I only had auto and home.....I had home with state farm....just because thats what the mortgage broker recommended when writing the loan, and it was escrowed and I never messed with it. And I had progressive for autos, as they were the only one that would cover a young unmarried male, with something like 10 speeding tickets in a 35 month period.

After all those lapsed and and I got married....I shopped. Settled in on state farm to match the homeowners ins. Kept shopping every few years and no one was any better when comparing apples to apples. All were right in the same ballpark and at best....maybe $10/yr cheaper on the package deal.....which wasnt worth the hassle of switching and dealing with the escrow setup.

I switched to erie several years ago on account of needing business ins. State farm had some policy that they would no longer insure any business that hasnt been previously insured for at least 2 years. So I called about 3 different independent agents to shop. Erie, pecan, ohio mutual, grange, allstate, nationwide, state farm, auto-owners, geico, etc etc. All of them would be priced just by dealing with a few independents.

There were slight differences that I had to adjust to be able to compare apples to apples. IE: most "standard" policys cover dwelling extensions (detached buildings) at 10% of the homes value. Well, with having a nice shop at my old house, and now at my current place....10% wasnt enough. erie does 20% as their standard, as do some others, but the ones that only do 10%.....gotta have them bump it to 20% and re-compare. Deductibles is another one to make sure you are comparing apples to apples on.

In the end, I have commercial on my truck/trailer, and 3 personal autos all insured to the max which is something like 250k/500k w/300k liability....I have my home insured with the shop covered at 20% of the home value (which is sufficient), and I have a 2m/4m business liability policy. All of that cost me ~$250/month.

With 4 policies comparing the total as a whole, erie was the cheapest apples to apples. IF I wanted 4 different carriers, like allstate for autos, erie for business, auto-owners for home, and ohio mutual for comm truck.....taking the cheapest of each itemized quote....I could have saved ~$10-$15 per month. But for me it wasnt worth the hassle. $240/month broken up over 4 separate bills. Or $250 and one bill and done. And if I have any issues.....its one call. Dont have to worry about weather a claim should go on my commercial truck ins, or business ins if I damage something plowing, etc. And about every year or two, I call around again. no one has offered me any better yet.
 
   / Car/house insurance #40  
For those of you thinking about Amica, they offered me an initial low rate, then jacked it up by 20% for each of the following two years.

Switched to Liberty Mutual, and they're doing the same thing.

I live in wildfire country (just had a very close call this week) and a lot of the major companies like AAA, Nationwide, State Farm, Farmers, Allstate, Geico, Progressive won't write a policy here. So I'm all ears hoping to hear of new companies I can try when I shop around in a month or so.

This is exactly what I have run into... not available for love or money or not unless it is a lot of money.

The common theme is distance to a fire hydrant being used to exude writing and then there is a rating system depending on topography if there is a hydrant so many feet from the property.

Looked at two homes on the same road less than a 1/4 mile apart... one had the last county hydrant right in front of the home... zero problem to insure... the other one had 10,000 of dedicated fire water storage, emergency pump and the shop was fully sprinklered plus a siphon pipe from the swimming pool... no dice... owner had Lloyds of London...
 

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