carry and usage

[k0ua]

This is not what if, it happened in my home town during the time the eclipse was beginning. A man walks into a small bank with two ladies at work in there. The exact order not sure but this coward shot and killed the two ladies and robbed the bank. Took the keys and car of one of the ladies he murdered. The law thinks they know who it is and if correct he was paroled on July 31st, 2017. On August 14th he robbed a bank in North Carolina. On August 21st he robbed and murdered two incident ladies, in SC. Had I been there and armed in the bank would I have done my best to protect the ladies and stopped the robber? I pray God would have given me the strength to for we are our brothers keeper. I believe each of you regardless of what you have posted would here would have wanted to protect them also. You would have used any tool you had.

So now there is a 9 and I think 14 year old children who will never have another hug or kiss from their mother. Another lady who will never hug or kiss her grands again either. If your heart is not touched by this and have no care for others I pray God will touch your heart, it is in sad condition. If it were your loved one in danger would you care who helped them? Not me. I would be thankful for and to who ever could and did help.

Without a doubt there are rabid dogs that walk on two legs. You may never run across one, or like those two unfortunate ladies you may deal with one today. The standing order for dealing with armed robbers is to always give them exactly what they want, and never confront them in any way. Some times what they want is to kill you. How many employees of chain stores have been fired after stopping armed robbers with their own carried firearms. Several for sure, because they violated the stores policy to always acquiesce to armed robbers.

 

[RandyT]

I think I would rather be fired than dead. And just because you give the robber everything he wants, doesn't guarantee that he or she may not still shoot you. If one of those ladies had been carrying that day. One or both may still be alive. The mindset of somebody that carries on a regular bases is something that can be explained over and over again, but you cannot make somebody else understand it. Talk to a cop sometime and try to understand the mindset, and then you will have a better understanding of the mindset of people that carry everyday. Because in some ways the though process is similar, and don't think we are trying to be wannabe cops, We use a similar mindset to try to avoid the situations that cops deal with on a regular bases.

In my case I run a small business in a rural area and handle large sums of cash, with a law enforcement response time of 30-45 minutes, I am my own protection From the time you dial 911 the average response time is 8-14 minutes in most areas, Now think about what can happen in those 8-14 minutes while waiting for somebody to show up that has no obligation to protect you.

 

[k0ua]

I think I would rather be fired than dead. And just because you give the robber everything he wants, doesn't guarantee that he or she may not still shoot you. If one of those ladies had been carrying that day. One or both may still be alive. The mindset of somebody that carries on a regular bases is something that can be explained over and over again, but you cannot make somebody else understand it. Talk to a cop sometime and try to understand the mindset, and then you will have a better understanding of the mindset of people that carry everyday. Because in some ways the though process is similar, and don't think we are trying to be wannabe cops, We use a similar mindset to try to avoid the situations that cops deal with on a regular bases.

In my case I run a small business in a rural area and handle large sums of cash, with a law enforcement response time of 30-45 minutes, I am my own protection From the time you dial 911 the average response time is 8-14 minutes in most areas, Now think about what can happen in those 8-14 minutes while waiting for somebody to show up that has no obligation to protect you.

Very well said. :thumbsup:

 

[HarryVanderpool]

Every single man in prison that shot some one was in the right.
Their incarceration is unjust. Every single one of them.

Does that sound sarcastic?
The fact is, many of them WERE in the right.
Maybe most of them.

But shooting someone and prevailing in a court of law are two very different things.

I have guns coming out of my ears. Some for protection.

But I get REAL TIRED of listening to gun fondlers talk about the day that the SHTF and they start mowing people down on their property.
You know what is MOST likely to happen after a short period of cival unrest?
Things go back to a semblance of normality.

BUT now you have to explain the 24 dead bodies surrounding your region with bullets identified from your gun.

It's not so simple as SHTF and start shooting.
Welcome to life in prison; or worse!!

 

[ch1ch2]

Every single man in prison that shot some one was in the right.
Their incarceration is unjust. Every single one of them.

Does that sound sarcastic?
The fact is, many of them WERE in the right.
Maybe most of them.

But shooting someone and prevailing in a court of law are two very different things.

I have guns coming out of my ears. Some for protection.

But I get REAL TIRED of listening to gun fondlers talk about the day that the SHTF and they start mowing people down on their property.
You know what is MOST likely to happen after a short period of cival unrest?
Things go back to a semblance of normality.

BUT now you have to explain the 24 dead bodies surrounding your region with bullets identified from your gun.

It's not so simple as SHTF and start shooting.
Welcome to life in prison; or worse!!

While that may be true, some how I missed your point.
I did not read anyone about " I get REAL TIRED of listening to gun fondlers talk about the day that the SHTF and they start mowing people down on their property."

 

[k0ua]

Every single man in prison that shot some one was in the right.
Their incarceration is unjust. Every single one of them.

Does that sound sarcastic?
The fact is, many of them WERE in the right.
Maybe most of them.

But shooting someone and prevailing in a court of law are two very different things.

I have guns coming out of my ears. Some for protection.

But I get REAL TIRED of listening to gun fondlers talk about the day that the SHTF and they start mowing people down on their property.
You know what is MOST likely to happen after a short period of cival unrest?
Things go back to a semblance of normality.

BUT now you have to explain the 24 dead bodies surrounding your region with bullets identified from your gun.

It's not so simple as SHTF and start shooting.
Welcome to life in prison; or worse!!

Count me in the I don't understand your point column. Where did your rant come from? From you fertile mind?

 

[kthompson]

The man who robbed the bank and killed the two ladies who did not resist was captured today. He is 3 time felon, paroled on July 31st this year, August 14th robbed a bank in North Carolina and August 21st robbed bank here and killed the two ladies.

Have a great friend who is an attorney and today over lunch asked him why would a robber killed the ladies as he did when no resisting by them. He replied he does not think he did anything wrong. Hard to comprehend that but have to admit know it is probably true. No doubt if you ask him when he is back in prison he will tell you how he is innocent and it was justified.

I have reach age enough and experienced enough to realize it is not possible to discuss with those with great prejudices and hatred that makes no sense. Sad they are. Never at peace. We sure have an abundance of them today.

 

[Thall303]

"I have reach age enough and experienced enough to realize it is not possible to discuss with those with great prejudices and hatred that makes no sense. Sad they are. Never at peace. We sure have an abundance of them today."

Very well said.

Once I figured that out, I no longer try to deal with them!

 

[Dftodd]

Wife and I both have cc permits. Class was very educational. I don't happen to carry all the time. Only when I'm traveling or going to a questionable area. Wife carries since she works in an area that has had issues in the past. She also has a military grade taser on her as well

A little old lady joined our cc class at the last minute. The day before there was a jail break in town. Jail happens to be right behind my work. We can see the inmate rec yard from the wash Bay. Apparently the crook snuck out of that pen, ran across the field behind our shop, hopped the fence at the railroad tracks. Stole a truck from the uhaul place. Place was also a mechanics shop, and the guy grabbed a truck that was getting dropped off for repairs.

Guy buried the truck 500 feet down the road, blew the motor in the truck. Then baled and tried car jacking this old lady. She ran him over with her volkswagen beetle But needless to say that freaked her out pretty good.

 

[HarryVanderpool]

Guy buried the truck 500 feet down the road, blew the motor in the truck. Then baled and tried car jacking this old lady. She ran him over with her volkswagen beetle But needless to say that freaked her out pretty good.

Great little story!
What was the outcome?
Do you have newspaper articles that you can link to this?
She ran over a person.
That means that, AT LEAST, involuntary manslaughter charges (if he was killed) were in effect.
Did she win in court? She should have.
But these days.....