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[LD1]

That wall co striction don't really add much to the cos for the benefit it offers.

Since you are sheathing the exterior, were you planning on making the 2x4's flush, or just nailed to the outside like typical?

Cause if just nailed outside, you will need about double the 2x4's if you plan on more than 1.5" insulation.

6" may sound like overkill, but there isn't a whole tone of price difference between 2 x 4 and 2x6, nor is there much price difference between r 13 and r19. If you plan to heat and cool, spending more on insulation is never a waste or never overkill.

Plus you can sheath the inside, since it will be flush, and you won't even see the posts. Neat, clean, efficient.

Price it all both ways. Wall lumber is a small drop in the bucket when you look at things in whole. On a 40*72 building like mine, with close to $30k spent, the difference between r13/2x4 vs r19/2x6 is probably less than a grand. So spending g very little additional is well worth the end benefits

 

[TMGT]

I'll look again but there was a pretty big jump in lumber cost going to 2x6 last time I looked. If it's affordable then I have no problems going heavier. I'm a big fan of insulation, I've done quite a bit of improvements at the house to increase thermal efficiency.

Either way insulation and finishing won't be happening right away anyways.

Still looking at steel trusses if I go wood frame.

 

[LD1]

My Menards prices....
2x4x10=$3.65
2x6x10=$5.49

And just depending on what and where u get insulation, r13 is usually around 25 cents a square ft

R19 is usually around 38 cents.

So between the 10 foot posts, and assuming a 10' high wall, and the horizontal joists on 2' centers, you would need 6 boards and 100sq ft of insulation.

So that's $71 for 10' of 6" wall. And $47 for 4".

But wait, if you build conventional style, with 2x4s outside the posts , you will need to but double the amount of them just to form studs. So that cost jumps right up there.

If you plan ahead you can always do the 2x4 flush to the outside similar to the way I say to do 2x6's. But most don't.

In either case, let's say a 40x60 building. That will have 20 wall sections. So about $1500 vs about $1000. So maybe $500 more in total for 6".

Like I said, it's a drop in the bucket given everything else. Lumber and insulation are cheap considering. The money is in the sheathing/siding, roofing, concrete, overhead doors, trusses, etc

 

[LD1]

I guess what I am saying is there is no right or wrong way, and it's your money. But after its all said and done and your building finished and you have spent 15-20k, don't regret not spending an extra $500 for a cleaner interior (no visible posts) and a stronger better insulated building

 

[TMGT]

I was actually thinking of doing the 2x4 flush, we'll see what's the pricing ends up for 2x6's.

I'm still planning on doing a 40x48x14 with a 10' lean too on one side, looking into scissor trusses as an option also.

 

[LD1]

So you are looking at probably 18 wall sections (between posts) and 14' high.

14' high is gonna take 8 horizontals and 140 sq ft insulation per wall sections. (Figuring rough at 40x50).

Bout $65 per wall section, $1200 for the complete building for 4" walls.

Bout $100 per section, $1800 for building, with 6" walls.

While 50% more sounds like alot, like I said, on a $15k+ building, $600 ain't nothing considering what you gain.

Your probably looking at $2k+ for a standard truss. Metal or scissor....$3k+. A few decient overhead doors...$4k, metal roof....$1500, concrete....$3000 if you finish....

Far bigger things than to sweat over $600.

Are you setting trusses direct to posts....10' spacing? Or are you gonna have to incorporate a stout header to carry trusses between posts?

 

[TMGT]

Have to see how regional pricing compares, things can be a little higher in this area. I'm going to be hiring out to the concrete finishing but will do all the site prep, reinforcement etc. Need to have the concrete finished right and don't trust myself on a pad that size.

Planning on using a stout header with notched post, spacing will depend on what truss I end up going with.

I'm estimating about 8k plus for just the pad. Hopefully 15k or less for the building and the rest for electric and whatever else I can afford.

Going with a single large panel garage door so that should keep the cost down hopefully.

 

[TMGT]

LD1 do you have any pictures of your building?

 

[LD1]

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[TMGT]

Very nice, I was thinking about stick built but looks like it would push the budget more then I'd like.

I remembered that I have a lumber mill about a mile from my house so I'll have to check with them, planning on doing concrete piers and brackets so shouldn't have any need for pressure treated.

I like the crane, was planning on doing one myself but it'll be a ways down the road unless I fall into some heavy I beam for super cheap.