Cat 6 Wiring and Electrical Wiring

[Industrial Toys]

Just to make life even easier. I did see information that you "CANT" use your goto wire pulling lube for CAT5-6! Oh no you need special stuff. Who does that come from? Oh, the people that make the special stuff of course. lol

 

[cqaigy2]

Just to make life even easier. I did see information that you "CANT" use your goto wire pulling lube for CAT5-6! Oh no you need special stuff. Who does that come from? Oh, the people that make the special stuff of course. lol

I'm NOT an installer, but i wonder if it's because the old lub they used, would dry out and glued the whole works together, so when, not if, you needed to add more or replace it, you had to abandon the run and find a new path.

 

[Industrial Toys]

They seemed to imply that "regular" pulling compound would destroy the jacket!!!!!! Weird.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Spent a little time searching. Irritating. Just homeowner opinions and nothing as for industry guidlines. SURE it will work, at what degraded speed? I could be totally wrong. I put miles of EMT conduit in my house in the 90s. I LOVE conduit. Never thought I could use it for CAT5 and 6 from what I recall reading. It would sure be NICE if I could. I will investigate further.

I know we ran a 2" conduit to the back of a large Pharma warehouse and the performance of CAT 5 was so poor they went with fiber. I attributed it to the conduit as it was not the 1000 feet you should be able to go with cat 5.

100 meters with ethernet, or 328'.

 

[ultrarunner]

Each floor of the hospital has bundles of cable above the acoustic tile...

Firewall penetrations are routed through 18" lengths of conduit filled with fire caulk

Each room has a conduit drop from the interstitial space down the inside the wall to the Eithernet jack... typically a 10' length conduit.

 

[Tractor Seabee]

100 meters with ethernet, or 328'.

Bingo Larry, Schneider research confirms that. Any further you need intermediate boosters. Remember boosters amplify noise as well as the signal. In one of my past life's as a facility manager we always planned junction points and boosters every 250'. DC cable voltage (the carrier) is usually around 5 volts. DC has a lot shorter distance of voltage loss than AC. In large buildings with long distances from computer to user we used larger wire for the backbone cabling. Requires the same # of conductors. Conduit provides the interference shield. On shielded cable always ground just one end of the shield to prevent eddy currents, piece of PVC conduit also breaks the continuity. It was common with security system installed by contractors to not meet criteria so we had to inspect and correct every contract install. Common over look was crossing wire pairs at terminals where units were daisy chained, used where multiple units require forward and reverse communication. Hardly ever gotten right.

Ron

 

[cdaigle430]

I would not run them along side each other for signal interference purposes low voltage or not. Cat 6 plenum is shielded and also coated with a non toxic coating but if electrical gets hit with a surge or by lightening-it can be bad. Here is another source that shares my opinion...

[SOLVED] Ethernet cat 6 cable and Electrical power cable - Networking - Spiceworks

 

[blee03]

I’ve ran 1000’s and 1000’s of feet of Cat5e in many different warehouses
Crossing power lines, following power lines , etc. not on purpose but there wasn’t really any other way around it

The building code in my area says ethernet cable can be close to the power conduit, in fact it can be touching the outside of the conduit... but it can’t be attached to the conduit.

Anyways, absolutely zero issues with speed, interference or connectivity
For the most part, the interference issue was most likely only an issue with Cat3 or previous cable

 

[cqaigy2]

Bingo Larry, Schneider research confirms that. Any further you need intermediate boosters. Remember boosters amplify noise as well as the signal. In one of my past life's as a facility manager we always planned junction points and boosters every 250'. DC cable voltage (the carrier) is usually around 5 volts. DC has a lot shorter distance of voltage loss than AC. In large buildings with long distances from computer to user we used larger wire for the backbone cabling. Requires the same # of conductors. Conduit provides the interference shield. On shielded cable always ground just one end of the shield to prevent eddy currents, piece of PVC conduit also breaks the continuity. It was common with security system installed by contractors to not meet criteria so we had to inspect and correct every contract install. Common over look was crossing wire pairs at terminals where units were daisy chained, used where multiple units require forward and reverse communication. Hardly ever gotten right.

Ron

If we're talking ethernet, one should try not to go beyond three repeaters.

 

[blee03]

I'm trying to run internet from a guest house to the main house about 150 feet away and trying to figure out how to do that. One idea is to run it in the underground electrical conduit that's already there but need some input.

150ft is no problem, like others have said keep it under 300ft
Dig a small trench and put it in there. Conduit or not, either way, it will be fine

Ive had a 150ft run of cat5e buried directly in the ground (no conduit) from my house to the garage forever... only had one issue since I only buried it 4-5 under the surface... Someone that was helping us with some yard work picked the wrong spot to stab his shovel into the ground when he was done working. He could have picked any other spot, lol. So I re-ran a new cat5e again, still no conduit, and its been fine ever since.

In hindsight, anything to protect the ethernet cable from shovels or things of that nature would be ideal but not necessarily needed
Maybe the 3rd time I run the cable I might take the extra time to install some conduit (pvc, metal, anything)