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corey9212

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Red Deer County, AB
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2015 John Deere 3046R
Hello I was wandering if there is a bushing that will allow a category 1 attachment to attach to a category 3 tractor?
Thank you.
 
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As bcp said, the cheapest and simplest way is to use two bushing on each lift pin (4 total).
1) two CAT 2 > CAT 1 and
2) two CAT 3 > CAT 2.
They should slide right into each other.

The QH bushings also work but I've found them to be more expensive for two than the cost of four of the reducer bushings.
 
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Ditto on the "be careful" not to tear up the cat 1 implement. Cat III tractors are big tractors...
 
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Bushings are a pain, IMO. Always sliding off or losing them. The ones at TSC have labels stuck on them that you need to peel off and clean the goo, before using.

If this is going to be a rather routine hook up I'd suggest putting bigger pins on the implement so you don't have to fool with bushings.

I third the being careful of implement destruction, especially if it is PTO driven.
Ron
 
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So what Cat I implement do you figure on using on a cat III tractor.

Another issue may be your cat III arms might not close enough to hitch a cat I implement
 
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I doubt the holes in the implement are large enough to insert Cat III pins into it so the bushings are going to be needed. You could put in Cat II pins and bush them. I know they will fit as I have changed out my Cat I to Cat II on all my 3 PH implements to match my LS lift arms.
Again, Cat I implements are going to be very light duty for a Cat III tractor and would likely be destroyed without you ever feeling the impact on your big tractor so extreme caution is necessary.
 
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Not Cat 1 to 3 but Cat 1 6.5 foot disk behind my M135GX. Sometimes you just need to make do with what you have and my L5740 had something else. No, it doesn't come close to covering the tread width. Our JD7720 which has Cat 3 and sometimes gets stuck with the same little things.
 

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Not Cat 1 to 3 but Cat 1 6.5 foot disk behind my M135GX. Sometimes you just need to make do with what you have and my L5740 had something else. No, it doesn't come close to covering the tread width. Our JD7720 which has Cat 3 and sometimes gets stuck with the same little things.

You got a 60" rotary cutter for that too? :D
 
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Thank you, I will look into the bushings, all the attachments listed on my signature is what I will be using, the ones that can be upgraded are already upgraded to cat 2 pins but there are a couple that there is no pin and the part that would act as the pin is part of the actual frame (those are the ones I really have to figure out upgrading that's why I asked this question) it's good to know that I can't upgrade to cat 3 pins (at least not without drilling bigger holes). I will be very careful with the attachments I still plan on going the same speed that I'm going now with the lighter/smaller ones. The dealer didn't even realize the tractor was cat 3 until I pointed it out that the holes are bigger. He's confused cause the tractor that this one replaced (when they switched the number system to reference horsepower instead of the old system) was cat 2 so he assumed this one was cat 2 as well.
 
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Thank you, I will look into the bushings, all the attachments listed on my signature is what I will be using, the ones that can be upgraded are already upgraded to cat 2 pins but there are a couple that there is no pin and the part that would act as the pin is part of the actual frame (those are the ones I really have to figure out upgrading that's why I asked this question) it's good to know that I can't upgrade to cat 3 pins (at least not without drilling bigger holes). I will be very careful with the attachments I still plan on going the same speed that I'm going now with the lighter/smaller ones. The dealer didn't even realize the tractor was cat 3 until I pointed it out that the holes are bigger. He's confused cause the tractor that this one replaced (when they switched the number system to reference horsepower instead of the old system) was cat 2 so he assumed this one was cat 2 as well.

If your attachments are Cat 2 pins now, why don't you get Cat 2 balls for the lower link arms on your tractor?
I don't know about yours but my Case New Holland has the balls held in by clips and the balls come out easily by removing the
clips and turning the balls a certain way. The tractor came with 2 different Cat size ball sets.
 
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Sorry my bad, it's going to be for a 6125R tractor not the 5115M that I currently have (will be trading the 5115M for the 6125R) the only way to put smaller balls is to replace the lift arms completely with cat 2.
 
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Might I inquire what is making you want to trade in??
 
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Might I inquire what is making you want to trade in??

I have a thread titled "new haying equipment" that explains it but here is the story behind the upgrade.

The dealer that I am dealing with now sells the 5115M for $88,000 the dealer I bought it from charged me $120,000 (same features and everything.) mine has had 10 warranty calls in the first month and they are now charging me for work that John Deere warranties. The new dealer said this is not uncommon for the old dealer to overcharge clients and said they have had an increase in sales due to people coming from the old dealer upset with their purchase (either wrong machine or overpriced.)

The 6125R actually came from my old dealership cause they sold it to a guy and sent him on his way without showing him how to operate it (lots of touch screen commands and features.) he got frustrated with it and traded it in with my new dealer for a simpler tractor. He told me it is not much more and cause of my situation he can give me a good deal on it (plus he will actually come out and show me all the features as I need to use them.) he wouldn't have suggested that big of tractor if it was just me on my land but cause I am doing that much more he said it should last me for all of that plus any expansions I would want to do. It is a lot of money and a lot of bells and whistles but I see it as an investment as I plan on continuing to grow (rent some land and grow more hay) the guy I'm doing custom baling for has me in a contract to do his hay for the next 5 years so I have work the whole time I am paying it all off.
 
 

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