CDL??

[Duffster]

Its the power unit that matters.

If the GCVWR of the power unit exceeds 26,001 you need a CDL.

The GVWR of the trailer matter if it is a combination.

A power unit doesn't have a CGVWR.

 

[Duffster]

Could I get regular tags on the truck, and farm tags on the trailer and be fine on a regular license?

That is how we roll sometimes.

 

[jdonovan]

The GVWR of the trailer matter if it is a combination.

A power unit doesn't have a CGVWR.

yes, it does.

It is the manufacturers rating for the maximum weight of both the power unit and trailer combined.

 

[brain55]

Out here in California GVWR isn't what they go by. It is the actual GCVW at that moment. If you are over 26,000 lbs you need a class A or B. If you are towing over 10,000 lbs commercially you need a class A or B. If the vehicle you are using has air brakes you need a class A or B. If you are using a commercial vehicle and are loaded over the vehicle weight tag you will be fined a dollar a pound plus fees, even if you are still driving in class. I have no idea what the exceptions are for farm plates or if we have them, even though I live on the outskirts of the Central Valley I don't see them here.

Brian

 

[Duffster]

yes, it does.

It is the manufacturers rating for the maximum weight of both the power unit and trailer combined.

That would be GCWR. But that is not what is used to determine whether or not a CDL is required.

To figure if you need a CDL you add the GVWR of the truck to the GVWR of the trailer.

 

[Duffster]

Out here in California GVWR isn't what they go by.

Really? They sure reference GVWR an awful lot.

California Commercial Driver License Handbook California Driver License Classes

With that reasoning you could drive an empty tractor trailer without a CDL as long as the actual weight was less than 26k?

If the vehicle you are using has air brakes you need a class A or B

I know for fact that isn't true.

 

[Wacky]

Really? Show us where we are wrong.

Stop at any DOT inspection station with an 80,000 lb rig and tell them you are right, just because you have farm tags and no CDL. You have to have a CDL for any tandem axle truck w/ airbrakes over 26,000. And for that matter the dangers of someone driving 80,000 with no training, or license to do so, I'm sure would make anyone, most anyone, cringe.

 

[Duffster]

Stop at any DOT inspection station with an 80,000 lb rig and tell them you are right, just because you have farm tags and no CDL. You have to have a CDL for any tandem axle truck w/ airbrakes over 26,000. And for that matter the dangers of someone driving 80,000 with no training, or license to do so, I'm sure would make anyone, most anyone, cringe.

I have been through the DOT station several time with a farm rig and no CDL.

You should really do some research before speaking as to fact.

Commercial Driverç—´ License: The Commercial Driverç—´ License (CDL) is a federally-based requirement that is regulated by individual states. Farm vehicle drivers are exempt from the CDL requirements if the commercial motor vehicle is:
(a) Controlled and operated by a farmer
as a private motor carrier of property,
(b) Being used to transport either-
(1) Agricultural products, or
(2) Farm machinery, farm supplies,
or both, to or from a farm;
(c) Not being used in the operation of a for-hire motor carrier;
(d) Not carrying hazardous materials of a type or quantity that requires the commercial motor vehicle to be placarded, and (
e) Being used within 150 air miles of the farmerç—´ farm.

http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/statepatrol/docs/farm-size.pdf

 

[Duffster]

Google, my Friend, Google.

Seems to be the same for WV.

Who must have a West Virginia Commercial Driver's License?
If you live in West Virginia and want to drive a commercial motor vehicle on the public roads, you must have a West Virginia Commercial Driver's License, unless you are expressly exempted.

Who is exempt?

Farmers Bonafide farmers or farm vehicle drivers operating a vehicle
otherwise covered by commercial driver's license requirements may be
exempt from the provisions of this article only if the vehicle used is:
1) driven by a farmer, or farm vehicle driver;
2) used only to transport either agricultural products, farm machinery,
or farm supplies to or from a farm;
3) not used in the operation of a common or contract motor carrier;
4) used within 150 miles of a qualifying farm.

http://www.transportation.wv.gov/dmv/Manuals/Documents/CDL-Manual.pdf

 

[Wacky]

I have been through the DOT station several time with a farm rig and no CDL.

You should really do some research before speaking as to fact.



http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/statepatrol/docs/farm-size.pdf

Well according to your post and link, farmers are exempt from SOME CDL reqirements, not a CDL license.