CEDAR SHAKE SIDING

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I got those on the drive shed, by converting VISA points into Home Hardware Dollars at Parr.

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I had my house and garage done by Mennonites, that I thought would do the job right. They didn't strap them and leave an air space. BUT, how could you walk on them with an air space? You need to be able to walk on a roof? And, I think it's possible that the woodpeckers might have become interested if their was a void with insects. They have never touched my cedar roofs, but sure laid waste to board and baton if there was an air space behind with cluster flies.

Looking at that picture, I guess strapped that closely would allow you to walk on it, but it doesn't seem like there is much space for circulation.

My roof is strapped!
About 3-1/2" open between strapping.
No problem walking on the roof.
You could dance on it, but it is 10/12 pitch, so some fancy footwork might be necessary, and the cedar is slippery.
 
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My son has sent shingles and shakes all over the country.............. CKShingle - YouTube

Watching those big blades with no guards makes my hands tremble. Especially the part where he's operating one machine with the left hand and another with the right. I guess he's experienced, but ****.

On a separate subject it's interesting that he cuts all the shingles off of one face. I've seen machines that rotate the log 90 degrees after each cut, so it's square and the shingles are coming off of all four sides. The thinking is that the outside and the center of the log aren't really usable, so this cutting maximizes the usable wood and minimizes the amount of trimming.
 
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   / CEDAR SHAKE SIDING #36  
I don't understand how my house and garage (Pacific Red) shingles got so terribly dry and brittle in 25 or so years. Like balsa wood.

If they had too much shade, not enough slope and no airspace under them, I thought they would rot, not dry out.
 
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**I don't know where folks are coming up with the requirement for staining cedar shingles.
The advantage of cedar shingles is that they DO NOT NEED any maintenance.
They naturally weather to a pleasant gray hue, and ..... FOR NO MAINTENANCE SHOULD BE LEFT THAT WAY**

They built a few new homes around here in the late 60's using cedar shakes, with no preservative. Within 10 years, they looked pretty nasty, between being weathered down a way from the eaves, then still looking brighter up under the eaves. They also got like a black mold on them, and not black streaks from nails, just a nasty looking black on them. All of them have now been resided with vinyl to cover it up. Could be it had something to do with us being in the rust belt, 100, or so miles upwind from the coal fired electric generating plants, and the acid rain they produced.

I have no idea what "kind" of oil was in the stain, but definitely not creosote, the smell of creosote would have given that away. But I'd imagine it did have some Linseed oil in it, plus other types of oils. I do remember it pretty much being very thin, and the first coat really soaked in. I remember Dad getting it in 5 gallon pails, and using a paint paddle on an electric drill, to mix up the pigment that was settled in the bottom of the bucket, before filling a more manageable gallon can to work out of.

We've never had the first problem with Carpenter Bee's, or Woodpecker's attacking the siding. Although the Carpenter Bee's do seem to love the exposed Yellow Pine, and Fir framing lumber. Close to a dozen Carpenter Bee traps hung around the covered patio, and outbuildings seemed to have thinned the herd quite a bit. A good way to use up scrap lumber from the wood shop.

There's actually 2 layers of shakes on. 1 smooth underlayment, then the textured shingles applied with, like 1-1/2" galvanized, ring shank nails, because that is what they used back in the day. No rust, and still on tight. Sheathing is 3/4" Yellow Pine, nailed on at a 45º angle, so as not to have an open crack, at a nail row. Then a layer of felt paper to make it air tight.

It's been working well since before I was born, and I'm getting to the age, it may need one more coat in my lifetime. As long as I don't have to do the serious prep work like the last time, it will be a piece of cake.
 

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