Oil & Fuel Cetane Boost

[joed3320]

Thanks to all for the help with my tractor,I want to make sure every one Knows how I got great results with starting ,running and no black smoke any more.POWER SOURCE With CETAINE BOOST is the trick for your diesel.Thanks

 

[johnk]

I use it all year long. Never had the diesel gell YET in the winter with sub 0 temps... Cheap insurance.

 

[KENSFM]

Thanks to all for the help with my tractor,I want to make sure every one Knows how I got great results with starting ,running and no black smoke any more.POWER SOURCE With CETAINE BOOST is the trick for your diesel.Thanks

Is "Power Source" the same as "Power Service" or is it a different product? Not familar with "Power Source".
Thanks, Ken

 

[Glen Watkins]

Looks like a little advertising at work here! Is it as good as this?

Performance Formula - Stanadyne

 

[jimlonz]

I have been using Amsoil Cetane boost and Amsoil Diesel concentrate for many years in all my diesel powered tractors and trucks. I have gotten very good results. hardly any black smoke and a smoother quieter running engine.

 

[sparrowhawk]

What you want is Power Service. I've used it in every diesel I've owned and never had issues. Just make sure you go White bottle not Red 911 bottle. While the red bottle is ok, it's for "oops" situations when you run straight diesel without winter mix and it gels on you..

It adds not only Cetane but also luberocity, which is important if you get a blend cut with K1, which has less parafins/lube.

 

[greg_g]

There's a silver formula too. No anti-gel additive, so it's a bit less expensive. I use the silver jug spring/summer/fall, white jug winter. Fortunately, I've never had to buy the red jug.

//greg//

 

[sparrowhawk]

There's a silver formula too. No anti-gel additive, so it's a bit less expensive. I use the silver jug spring/summer/fall, white jug winter. Fortunately, I've never had to buy the red jug.

//greg//

Greg, good call there. I forget about that being up in the northeast.I usually have a stockpile of the white stuff and always forget they have a summer blend as well. If you have the option, I believe the summer formula actually boosts cetane more, but I could be wrong. Thanks for the addition.

 

[kub32guy]

What you want is Power Service. I've used it in every diesel I've owned and never had issues. Just make sure you go White bottle not Red 911 bottle. While the red bottle is ok, it's for "oops" situations when you run straight diesel without winter mix and it gels on you..

It adds not only Cetane but also luberocity, which is important if you get a blend cut with K1, which has less parafins/lube.

Ditto good stuff:thumbsup:

 

[greg_g]

I believe the summer formula actually boosts cetane more,

Used to depend upon the mixing ratio. The labels then contained .32oz/gal and .64oz/gal instructions. But that's changed recently. Now the
white jug says .33oz/gal for cleaning + anti-get + cetane boost of 4 numbers,
silver jug says .33oz/gal for cleaning + cetane boost of 6 numbers.

//greg//

 

[spruce Deere]

I always run the white jug at .33 oz per gallon in the 790, some times a little more than that in the winter

Seems to start quicker, run a little smoother altogether and get a little better mileage as compared to not using power service.

I have too have used amsoil diesel concentrate but, power service is more available, wal-mart, napa, car quest, local fuel depot....

I feel its worth running power service all year with the ulsd.... Like the 10% ethnal 'sp?' junk gas any more, it needs something more to offset the neutering effects the EPA imposed on all fuels. We pay more for a lesser quality of fuel now

 

[sparrowhawk]

I always run the white jug at .33 oz per gallon in the 790, some times a little more than that in the winter

Seems to start quicker, run a little smoother altogether and get a little better mileage as compared to not using power service.

I have too have used amsoil diesel concentrate but, power service is more available, wal-mart, napa, car quest, local fuel depot....

I feel its worth running power service all year with the ulsd.... Like the 10% ethnal 'sp?' junk gas any more, it needs something more to offset the neutering effects the EPA imposed on all fuels. We pay more for a lesser quality of fuel now

With that being said since we are onto diesel performance....
The only other thing I would like to do a little research on would be getting the injector nozzles tuned with a better spray pattern. You can flow a little more fuel this way at the same timing/pressure and the only result is more power (and maybe a little more smoke at WOT/load). I've seen this provide 5-10% improvement in torque/hp on a dyno without any computer adjustments or fuel pressure changes. Also saw better fuel economy, but that was in a diesel automobile, so not sure if that would be applicable.

 

[bowhunter543]

I have a torpedo heater that runs on diesel. Would this cetane help with carbon deposits on igniter plug? I never used to have any problems until this year. I have checked all the specs and their right where they belong. I know this is a little off subject but any help would be appreciated.

 

[sparrowhawk]

I have a torpedo heater that runs on diesel. Would this cetane help with carbon deposits on igniter plug? I never used to have any problems until this year. I have checked all the specs and their right where they belong. I know this is a little off subject but any help would be appreciated.

Cetane is really a measure of the quality and speed of ignition of the diesel fuel. It's one of the measures, but not the only measure. While a higher cetane number can potentially aid in reducing carbon deposits, you would probably also be more interested in something like Diesel Clean from PS as it's designed to clean injectors that are dirty. I've also been known to mix in a little Sea Foam but thats a much longer discussion.

Short of it, if you are getting a lot of carbon buildup, try a detergent additive, and also make sure you have good filtration. The cetane may help as well because it sounds like you aren't getting a complete burn.

 

[greg_g]

Cetane rating for diesel fuel is similar to octane rating for gasoline. I doubt increasing the cetane number would help your space heater.

Given the location the igniter, I'm not sure there are any fuel additives that will effectively burn off that buildup. If yours is like mine, the igniter is positioned in front of the nozzle. Turning on the switch starts the pump and sparks the igniter at approximately the same time. Assuming your igniter is fixed in the spray pattern (and therefore the flame), it should be reasonably self-cleaning. Carbonization suggests dirty fuel. Alternatively, the igniter location might have to be adjusted to rest in a hotter part of the flame.

If perhaps you have a design that moves the igniter out of the spray pattern after ignition, it might have to be adjusted to rest farther away from the flame. Either way, I think I'd open it up so see what's what. The think will probably need cleaning anyway.

//greg//

 

[sparrowhawk]

Cetane rating for diesel fuel is similar to octane rating for gasoline. I doubt increasing the cetane number would help your space heater.

//greg//

Higher Cetane number (40 is the minimum standard in the US, any more than 55 is a waste of additive) = more spontaneous combustion ability of diesel.

Higher Octane number = Lower spontaneous combustion ability of gasoline. Higher octane fuel reduces knocking in a gasoline engine (knocking is detonation before Top Dead Center piston position), hence why sports cars and higher compression engines require a higher octane fuel to prevent pre-det.