Chain hooks on FEL bucket

[greasemonkeyok]

Thanks. I've been doing that, not necessarily on purpose though. Just unsteady.

Bought some .045 NP212 Lincoln wire for welding larger pieces - it sure makes a difference.

 

[patrick_g]

Standard Kubota buckets are weak in that area. Good idea to add reinforcement as the hook will concentrate force in a small area and with out that reinforcement your bucket will bend.

I have the HD Kubota bucket with the pipe running across the top for reinforcement. I ground a little better shape on the hooks (intended to pin to a chain, from Harbor Freight) and welded directly to pipe with no doubler,

Caution! Galvanized hooks will make dangerous fumes. Don't weld them facing into the breeze nor directly away. Turn so it is crosswind to avoid breathing poisonous fumes. If you get some fumes then drink lots of milk.

KUDOS to the Lincoln WeldPak 100 user. I have one also but used the Lincoln ACDC tombstone buzzbox on DC to do mine.

Pat

 

[Chilly807]

What is the benefit of doing the root pass first? I'm assuming you get better penetration due to the heat concentration directly at the joint, but I'm guessing..

I'm no expert on welding, I've always used a weave pattern, but without the straight root pass first. Every time I've tried to do a stringer, or straight run I find I end up going too fast, the weave slows me down enough to get a decent weld.

I get the feeling I'm going to learn something here... I've never had anything break (not the weld anyway), but I'm open to learning.

Chilly

It is a method of welding where you weave back and forth across the root pass. It gives the appearance that you are using a larger welding rod then you actually have. Most welding inspectors don稚 like it; they want you to run stringers. It sure looks good if done right, much better then stringers, or at least 杜y stringers.

 

[killdozerd11]

What is the benefit of doing the root pass first? I'm assuming you get better penetration due to the heat concentration directly at the joint, but I'm guessing..

I'm no expert on welding, I've always used a weave pattern, but without the straight root pass first. Every time I've tried to do a stringer, or straight run I find I end up going too fast, the weave slows me down enough to get a decent weld.

I get the feeling I'm going to learn something here... I've never had anything break (not the weld anyway), but I'm open to learning.

Chilly

The root weld is the weld at the bottom of the V in a fillet weld if it is not joined properly the rest of the weld will probably fail

When you do repair work you always grind a V along the failure to make a fillet weld if you don't the weld will fail
i don't care how much weld you put on the surface if you don't get a good root weld it will fail maybe not now but it will fail eventually

When you do pipe or structural the weave is not allowed under ASME section 9 and API standards because of weld failures as a matter of fact E7018 is no longer allowed for the root weld they have gone back to E6010 root welds
because of weld failure

When you take your AWS D1.1 U or L structural certification test the weave is not allowed because of weld failure usually due to slag inclusion or bonding failure

So take that for what it's worth

 

[Sandlot]

Killdozer is right on the money hince my statement about the welding inspectors not liking the weave. When I was in welding school my instructor told me I would learn to love 6010, he was wrong! I could never get the stack of dimes look. But I managed to get my root passes down with it and do the fill with 7018. I never used 6010 much after school, 7018 was my friend, but if was rusty and I couldn't get my grinder on it, 6010 was always a good option.

 

[JoelD]

This is an excelent thread on welding

great posts guys

thanks for taking the time

makes me want to take a welding class

I've got to find a good one in my area

Joel

 

[killdozerd11]

I need to go back to school because i don't keep current

I took basic and advanced SMAW and basic and advanced GTAW
Pipe and plate and the certification course and welding blueprint reading
2 years as a part time student and was a AWS student member
And also got involved with the local VICA chapter

Reading welding blue prints are NOT like reading standard blueprints
they have a meaning and symbols all there own :confused2:

In that time i seen a lot of guys that come there with a attitude of
I'm a welder and i don't need this class..nobody likes 6010 but it's what you will use in basic so don't get discouraged learn

Anyway Henry the instructor had a humbling test for these guys that had that problem it was a simple cube with a house type roof and a pipe nipple

When you got it welded up you filled it with a water soluble oil mix and dried it then a hand pump was connected to the nipple and you pressurized it
9 times out of 10 it looked like a garden sprinkler :laughing:

Most guys quit the class after that still mumbling about being a welder and who used 6010 and other excuses :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I was not one of those guys :thumbsup:
I later became a student instructor teaching people that just needed a little more help and became great friends with Henry the instructor, professor of industrial arts and got involved in the AWS chapter and VICA

I learned a lot in those 2 years