Security & Theft Chain or Wire Rope for Security ?

KubotaSteve · Feb 5, 2004

I disagree about the dogs. No need to put animals in harms way. They could get shot and killed or hit with a pipe or something. Not worth a couple of good dogs. If the stuff is being stored out of state where no one is around, then if someone is stealing it, they will know this and take their time. Several of these ideas may slow down some thieves, but they are not going to stop them. Instead of spending a bunch of money on chain, fancy locks, etc. you install one of those motion cameras. If someone takes your stuff they will set off the motion camera and either get a video or picture of who they are and what they are driving.
My uncle can leave anything lay around his place for weeks and doesn't care whether it gets stolen or not and it never gets stolen, but someone who is concious about it leaves their stuff out a few hours and it's gone!!!!
I guess you could always look around for an old bank vault to put your equipment in /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Dave___in___CT · Feb 5, 2004

Camera...
No electricity yet... /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Dave...

5030 · Feb 5, 2004

Dave:

The camera is the best idea. You could get a solar rechargeable unit. I've seen them in some catalog (search the web). They are used for taking pictures of birds and animals in the woods.

As far as chain, years ago, I had a motorcycle anchored to the garage floor with grade 80 chain and an eye bolt in the cement. My buddy showed me how easy it was to defeat the chain or padlock for that matter.

He took a small CO2 fire extinguisher and sprayed a link and hit it with a hammer. It shattered like glass. Then he did the same thing to my new Master lock. Pow went the hammer and the lock was junk. It won't work with wire rope, but the lock will shatter. If someone wants it, they will get it.

My suggestion, other than a dog, is a good insurance policy with a deductible you can live with. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Soundguy · Feb 5, 2004

I agree about dogs. I let mine out at night now. We have good fenced property, and the dogslike the pasture anyway.. I've left the gate open accidentially and the dogs didn't leave.. so someones gotta come in. If they do.. the dogs will hear them. Heck.. for that fact.. the longhorn will hear them... and I have a real curious longhorn.

Soundguy

JeffRey30747 · Feb 6, 2004

If you don't hide the camera well, they will just steal it too!
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Jeff

Inspector507 · Feb 6, 2004

But with the camera.........your stuff is still GONE /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

KubotaSteve · Feb 6, 2004

Yes, with the camera the stuff is still gone, but at least you will have some idea who took it as opposed to broken chain and locks that will be of no use to you. Remember locks are only for honest people. Thieves will steal anything they want. I vote for the camera and good insurance!!!! Most thieves are pretty lazy and are not going to try and steal 500 or 600 pound implements to only get a couple hundred bucks. They would rather steal things easier to move and keep less noticeable. Just my $.02. If you are dead set on trying to keep someone from taking them, my advice is to booby trap the area, put a couple of bear traps under some leaves around the implements!!!! I know that is going a bit far!!!!

5030 · Feb 6, 2004

Steve:

Dave doesn't live in Detroit, or for that matter, Gary, Indiana!!

Soundguy · Feb 7, 2004

Too bad you still can't hang thieves.

A dead scoundrel rotting and hanging from a branch near your tractor would serve as a warning for anyone else with hot fingers... ( at any rate.. at least the 'hanger' wouldn't be stealing it.. )

Soundguy

SPIKER · Feb 9, 2004

<font color="red"> Guns make great theft deterants! lol I agree with that. DOGS too... </font>

But with you having out of state stuff, then next best thing is to make it as hard as possable. like others said the 18 votl cordless saws make great chain & cable cutters. add on the metal cutting blade and a 3/8" chain cut takes about 45 sec. grade 80 stuff is harder to cut, but still cuts... what is even easier, than the cutter is a small battery & bottel of ox with a carbon arc rod, it will cut either in about 5 sec.

any how, the next5 best bet is to put up a small chain link fence around the stuff. makes it harder to get it in & out for you but also makes it much harder for them to get it out. then park and immoblixe the tractor aginst the gate! or park the 500 LB box blade which only cost 400 to replace aginst the gate protecting the more costly tiller/brush hog stuff... Not many people will want to attempt to move the big blade to open the gate to get to stuff that they can't hardly move for a few hundred bucks after it is sold...

In a sitution like that is more than likely the neibors you would have to worry about taking that type of equipment as they are there and can see it... so get to know them and treat them well. also invite them over when you are there for a few beers cookout ect... They will know you are not there 90% of time and will know when you come & go anyhow. Might as well get them kind of used to looking after you're stuff and make it known you will help them out if need be...

Ok had my 2 cents worth.

Mark M /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif