1980 F1500
New member
You pointed the OP in the right direction to get his running again. Well done. And, I forgot to thank you for your help with mine. So I'm saying it now. A big thanks for your many contributions and help.
Changed fuel injection pump oil and now Ford 1700 will only idle
JC-jetro
Elite Member
You are quite welcome. A lot of people come and ask and you never hear from there. It is not that you are looking for a "thank" but a feed back. it is just common courtesy and not all feel obligated.
JC,
OP
pclausen
Veteran Member
Yeah, awesome support JC!
You even offered up other suggestions before I was able to respond to your first one (or was that your third one, I loose count)
You even offered up other suggestions before I was able to respond to your first one (or was that your third one, I loose count
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JC-jetro
Elite Member
Yeah, awesome support JC!
You even offered up other suggestions before I was able to respond to your first one (or was that your third one, I loose count
You are welcome. Solving a puzzle does have it's own rewards.
JC,
Kent B
Silver Member
The same thing happened to me after I drained the oil from the injector pump. I figured that I had air in the line so I tried bleeding by the book for a few days but no dice.
Solution for me: Removed engine oil filter. Removed cover / plate on injector pump. Made sure that the "spring" (sits on a guide rod) was lined up with the (rack) aka item #72 in parts diagram. Replaced oil filter and added oil back to injector pump.
She scared me when she fired up because I had it set on "rabbit" mode for bleeding purposes.
It doesn't even look like there is much to hold that spring in position except for the guide rod so it would be very easy to put it back wrong.
It is a very weak and flimsy spring. Hard to believe that it makes that much difference but it did.
P.S.: I don't remember if your 1700 oil filter is in the same place as my 1710 but if it is then it is a whole lot easier to remove the cover plate if you take off the oil filter. I did not drain the engine oil first. The only oil that came out was from inside the filter.
My tractor was sitting on a slight incline.
Solution for me: Removed engine oil filter. Removed cover / plate on injector pump. Made sure that the "spring" (sits on a guide rod) was lined up with the (rack) aka item #72 in parts diagram. Replaced oil filter and added oil back to injector pump.
She scared me when she fired up because I had it set on "rabbit" mode for bleeding purposes.
It doesn't even look like there is much to hold that spring in position except for the guide rod so it would be very easy to put it back wrong.
It is a very weak and flimsy spring. Hard to believe that it makes that much difference but it did.
P.S.: I don't remember if your 1700 oil filter is in the same place as my 1710 but if it is then it is a whole lot easier to remove the cover plate if you take off the oil filter. I did not drain the engine oil first. The only oil that came out was from inside the filter.
My tractor was sitting on a slight incline.
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JC-jetro
Elite Member
The only thing I would add to Kent B is that is of utmost importance to put a witness mark on injector pump base and the timing cover so the same injector timing will be duplicated. The procedure to make sure injector fires at the right time is not that easy and might be finicky. I have read the procedure and though, I just go ahead and mark the timing while all is working well.
JC,
JC,
Kent B
Silver Member
One thing that I noticed while doing this procedure is that engine oil does get slung into the injector pump reservoir during operation. The reason I came up with this theory is that even though I had previously drained and replaced my engine oil there was still some residual (dirty oil) that got left behind. After running the engine for only a few minutes that dirty oil mixed with the clean oil and ended up in the injector pump where I had already drained and replaced it with fresh clean oil.
I will probably do another oil change soon just to make me feel better.
I will probably do another oil change soon just to make me feel better.
JC-jetro
Elite Member
Kent,
There is no physical connection between (cross connection) between crankcase or injector pump at all in 1700 0r 1000 series Shibaura. The only possible leakage can be from injector pump main shaft seal in to timing cover and then in to crankcase and never the other way around. next time blow some air from the dill connection and you'll see another spoon or of dirty oil coming out. That little bit of old oil and new 2 oz make the new oil as dirty as the old in nothing flat.
JC,
Kent B
Silver Member
Thanks for the info.
I wish I had drain and level holes in the Injector pump but no such luck.
ajcollins
New member
JC, I am brand new to this forum. I just bought a ford 1700 (really like it). I have read many of your helpful post. I am having the same problem as Pclausen was having with the injector pump oil change and now it only will idle. I followed the train of "how to fix". Unfortunately this did not fix mine. I was looking to see if you had any other suggestions. I know this is an old posting and don't even know if you are still an active member, I thought I would give it a shot. The only thing I have not done is take one of the lines off that runs from the injector pump to the actual engine head (the metal tubings - 2 of them). I got one off but not the other one yet, could there be an "air bubble" in there that is causing the problem. Thank you in advance for any advice.
AC
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