Changing Mig Wire

ovrszd · Mar 24, 2016

I struggled understanding a MIG welder when I first bought one. The wire speed determines the AMPs of the welder. A dirty liner will slow the feed of the wire or make it unreliable. The welder will totally frustrate you. Very important to have a clean liner. Also, very important to not "kink" your gun feed. I always make sure I'm letting the feed lay in a relaxed position and not bent sharply around anything. I use a 15' feed. If kinked or bent sharply it won't weld for crap.

/pine · Mar 24, 2016

Jim Timber said:
2# spool is small enough you can hold it in your left hand and feed the end into the liner before attaching it to the feeder.

What gets me is how some of you can't handle being told how your problem isn't a problem because we've already found ways to make it not a problem but you seem bent on insisting that since you couldn't figure it out that somehow we're demeaning you. We've given you the solution, but you still want to whine about it.

Just being blunt and sincere like someone's sig line claims they are.

What gets me is the know it all goofs that just because they have not experienced an issue think it does not exist or that they are omnipotent mechanical masters...guess again goofy...!

And BTW buster...you have not told me anything of any value I did not already know

Jim Timber · Mar 24, 2016

You want some fun? Try a 2# spool of .035 309 SS!

There's nothing short of deep cleaning or liner replacement that would get me to pull my gun off the feeder. That O-ring at the mount is responsible for keeping your shielding gas going out the right end of the hose, and every time you pull it off is one more opportunity to ruin that seal and possibly introduce air into your shielding gas via venturi suction.

My intention was never to get anyone's goat or panties wadded, but to explain that I wouldn't even consider removing the gun to change wires. Honestly, the thought of such a method had never crossed my mind. There's no sense to it IMO.

Jim Timber · Mar 24, 2016

/pine said:
What gets me is the know it all goofs that just because they have not experienced an issue think it does not exist or that they are omnipotent mechanical masters...guess again goofy...!

And BTW buster...you have not told me anything of any value I did not already know

The last welds I made:

Post yours.

dragoneggs · Mar 24, 2016

I continue to follow threads like this one even though I think I learned what I need to know. Yes, I have better things I could do but I never know how much more entertainment I will receive... keep it up, guys!

/pine · Mar 24, 2016

Jim Timber said:
The last welds I made:

View attachment 462240

Post yours.

post what? a picture of an unorganized mess? LoL...!
Get a clue or some help...!

Jim Timber · Mar 24, 2016

/pine said:
post what? a picture of an unorganized mess? LoL...!
Get a clue or some help...!

I can't find good help. Last guy I tried to hire wanted to pull the engine to change the alternator. Any relation of yours? :laughing:

/pine · Mar 24, 2016

Jim Timber said:
I can't find good help. Last guy I tried to hire wanted to pull the engine to change the alternator.... :laughing:

I have no doubt you actually tried to employ the guy...obviously it makes perfect sense...:thumbsup:

Jim Timber · Mar 24, 2016

I see your deductive reasoning is on par with your MIG electrode threading skills.

bcp · Mar 24, 2016

Jim Timber said:
The last welds I made:

View attachment 462240

Post yours.

I like the way you fixed that leaking rod seal for good.

:laughing:

Bruce

Jim Timber · Mar 24, 2016

bcp said:
I like the way you fixed that leaking rod seal for good.

:laughing:

Bruce

Not quite. :laughing:

I did use the drop from shortening the rod to extend the fixed eye though. The adjustable draft sensing doesn't leave much room for the cylinder at the tractor, so it needs to be poked out or you lose the use of the bottom holes (and all your automaticness).

rhunt · Mar 25, 2016

Arkydog, got a chuckle reading your post, my problem is when I install a new roll and when running the wire through the rolls, sometimes the wire starts to unravel from the reel. Talk about problems! Best regards, Bob

ovrszd · Mar 25, 2016

Jim Timber said:
The last welds I made:

View attachment 462240

Post yours.

Very nice Jim!!! I have moments. But somewhere around those circles I would drift off target or have a "pile".

5030 · Mar 25, 2016

rhunt said:
Arkydog, got a chuckle reading your post, my problem is when I install a new roll and when running the wire through the rolls, sometimes the wire starts to unravel from the reel. Talk about problems! Best regards, Bob

Been there, done that. I put a piece of painters tape across the wire. That eliminates the unraveling.

/pine · Mar 25, 2016

Jim Timber said:
I see your deductive reasoning is on par with your MIG electrode threading skills.

What was there to deduct?...I posted an observation based directly on what you had said...
BTW...deduct this:
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arkydog · Mar 25, 2016

rhunt, i appreciate your reply. glad you brought it up.

what i do first is to firmly tighten the spool tension. this keeps the wire from birds nesting.
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then with both hands, one on spool, other holding wire, i turn spool and advance wire at same time.

with the wire hand i feed the first guide and at the same time turn the tensioned spool and advance the wire into the first guide and then the already the opened rollers(no need to change roller tension setting using same size dia. wire).

close the roller tensioner, remove gun if already haven't, turn down voltage and up wire speed

remember to leave electrical plug on gun plugged in, pull trigger advancing wire and then into liner. install gun in machine, remove gun tip, str. gun out and advance wire thru gun and out.

hope this help for those that have to remove the gun on multi use machines like those with spool funs for aluminum.

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rhunt · Mar 25, 2016

Thanks for the advice. Best regards, Bob

Jim Timber · Mar 25, 2016

/pine said:
What was there to deduct?...I posted an observation based directly on what you had said...
BTW...deduct this:
01000010 01101001 01110100 01100101 00100000 01101101 01100101 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01110010 01100101 01110000 01110101 01100111 01101110 01100001 01101110 01110100 00100000 01100001 01110011 01110011 00100000 01110111 01101001 01110000 01100101

{Btw: this is all binary code which translates to "Bite me you repugnant *** wipe" *** is a synonym for "butt" }

Still wondering how good of weldor you are to be giving advice about it? Show us some beads.

Ad hominem is a really weak position to argue from btw.

arkydog · Mar 25, 2016

Jim Timber said:
"Bite me you repugnant *** wipe" *** is a synonym for "butt" btw

Still wondering how good of weldor you are to be giving advice about it? Show us some beads.

Ad hominem is a really weak position to argue from btw.

jim timber, why are so nasty, this was a thread to inform other people that might have problems spooling the wire in most any kind of mig welder, not to have everybody that reads this thread to show what an ***** you are.