Changing UDT hydraullic flud - major stupid

[N80]

I think whoever designed a funnel whose tip can drop down into valve heads, crankcases and transmissions should be flogged. Just for fun, I'd drop them a note and ask them how they'd solve this problem.

I don't have any good practical advice for you, but I hope you'll let us know how you finally solve this.

 

[davemhughes]

Before doing anything drastic, i.e. splitting the tractor, I'd remove the ROPS, seat, toolbox etc., so I could get a good view down in the hole. I'd exhaust every possibility of getting at that extension short of splitting the tractor.

....... it is what I would do after I have exhausted everything I could think of short of splitting the tractor.

I thought I was clear about splitting the case as the very last option but as I see it it really boils down to just a few options available to you. The one I do know for sure is this seems like a nightmare of a problem. Any chance of being able to to gain a different access point into the case, look all over the case for one as some times they will put just a cover in a spot where an additional option was supposed to go. Like a mid-pto or something.

 

[kmdigital]

The same thing happened to me years ago with a Farmall 826, except the extension was about 12" long. Since there was no easy way to get it, we called the dealership, and they said it wouldn't really hurt anything so we let it go, and didn't even change the filters. Worked fine, and never had a problem.

The reason is that the fluid all goes through the filter before it goes to the pump, so it will definitely catch it. Most likely it is heavier than the oil, so the gears will chew it up some and the pieces will fall to the lowest spots and set there. A few smaller peices may eventually end up in the filter, but most won't.

If you can't locate it, I certainly wouldn't split it are majorly disassemble it to get it out. If it isn't too hard, maybe removing one or two plates or access covers will get you what you need, but otherwise you'll never know it's in there.

 

[thunderworks]

Update: I made an adapter to fit a 5/8" od plastic tube to my shop vac and tried to suck it out -- no luck. I think the spigot has been pushed essentially to the bottom of the rear end.

I also called a Kubota dealer in KC who thought the likelihood of a problem was very low. He said that the only problem would be if the spigot plugged the inlet hydraullic suction line which would rob the transmission, the steering, loader (i.e. everything) of hydraullic power. He did tell me that under the seat there's a removeable cover plate that would give me access to the rear end, but his recommendation was similar kmdigital . . . ignore it.

I'll keep you posted.

Rick

 

[duber34]

I sure wouldn't feel comfortable just ignoring it. Wish I had some advise to help you out.....


Regards,
Duber

 

[JerryG]

When you change the oil, let it drain good and try to see if you can see it through the drain hole. You might need to jack the tractor up on one side or one end to get the funnel part to float to the end where the drain plug is at before you drain the fluid. I'm with Kubota in thinking that you shouldn't have any problems even if you can't get it out.
As far as using a funnel to get the oil in goes, I know that there are things in the way of pouring the oil in so I made a funnel. It is made out of PVC with a 4" or 6" reducer at the top and then 45* elbow and short sections of pipe. The pipe is just small enough to go into the hole. It has worked great and doesn't come apart and it will stay in place while I am pouring.

 

[Glowplug]

There is NO WAY I would feel comfortable just ignoring it. Sure, it may be okay. But I would never feel the same about my tractor and wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

What you really need is a colonoscope. I have been able to extract some "interesting" objects from deep dark places using a colonoscope. . .if you get my drift. Unfortunately, you're talking tens of thousands of dollars for that. And I doubt there is a colonoscope rental store around. But a colonoscope is basically a flexible fiberoptic scope with a port to pass instruments through such as graspers. Sounds very similar to the shop device that was mentioned earlier. Heck, you could probably get a used colonoscope on e-bay. They have everything!

Good luck and keep us posted!

 

[Sully2]

Update: I made an adapter to fit a 5/8" od plastic tube to my shop vac and tried to suck it out -- no luck. I think the spigot has been pushed essentially to the bottom of the rear end.

I also called a Kubota dealer in KC who thought the likelihood of a problem was very low. He said that the only problem would be if the spigot plugged the inlet hydraullic suction line which would rob the transmission, the steering, loader (i.e. everything) of hydraullic power. He did tell me that under the seat there's a removeable cover plate that would give me access to the rear end, but his recommendation was similar kmdigital . . . ignore it.

I'll keep you posted.

Rick

Personally...Id pull the cover plate ASAP.

 

[Barnboy]

A wad of sticky duct tape on the end of a wire, dowel rod ect.??? This has worked on simular situations for me. Dont know if it will get oil soaked before you reach the plastic tube.

 

[john_bud]

Wow! This must really stink.


First, leaving it in there isn't a good option to me. May be ok,but....


I would step back for a bit and think calmly. You havn't had any good luck getting it from the top. Other options are needed. The rear PTO cover may easily come off and it should give you access to the spot where the spout is. If it is not there, the front PTO cover would be the next option. Then the top access cover. Finally, pulling an axle trumpet off.

I have the work shop manual for the "10" series and will look to see if there are any other options. May not be applicable, but will look anyway.


Hang in there!

jb