Cheap $20 a month Stand Alone Unlimited Rural Internet through AT&T Wireless

[aczlan]

Your confidence is cute, but you are incorrect.
Go to a site like What Is My IP Address? IP Address Tools and More while using a phone or PC connected to the Internet through the Mobley. You will see a public IP listed. Mine is 107.77.83.xx. You can even go to ARIN or another whois site and look up who owns that IP to show that it is AT&T's IP that it has given to your Mobley. In this case it is AT&T:
That is your public IP. It is the IP your Mobley communicates with. Anything connected to the Mobley sits behind the internal router in the Mobley and has a 192.x.x.x address. Those IPs are not publicly routeable. The public IP on your Mobley is the same type of thing as the WAN IP on a DSL router or a cable modem. It identifies your WAN connection device to the Internet and gives it an address.
Similarly with your phone: When it is connected to the cell network (wifi off) it has a public IP. Once you turn wifi on and connect to a wifi network your phone takes on a local IP and the Internet-connected device is the WAN device connected to your wifi router.

You are misguided, the ONLY way to tell if you are being NATed is if you compare the IP address that the device (a cell phone or the Mobly) reports as its WAN IP with the address from the "What is my IP" site.
As an example:
My phone (Motorola G4 Play on a Verizon Prepaid MNVO) gets an address in the 100.112.x.x range from the "status" page of the phone, ARIN says the following:

Net Range 100.64.0.0 - 100.127.255.255
CIDR 100.64.0.0/10
Name SHARED-ADDRESS-SPACE-RFCTBD-IANA-RESERVED
Handle NET-100-64-0-0-1
Parent NET100 (NET-100-0-0-0-0)
Net Type IANA Special Use
Origin AS
Organization Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA)
Registration Date 2012-03-13
Last Updated 2016-04-11
Comments This block is used as Shared Address Space. Traffic from these addresses does not come from IANA. IANA has simply reserved these numbers in its database and does not use or operate them. We are not the source of activity you may see on logs or in e-mail records. Please refer to IANA — Abuse Issues

Shared Address Space can only be used in Service Provider networks or on routing equipment that is able to do address translation across router interfaces when addresses are identical on two different interfaces.

If I go to one of the sites which look up your outward facing IP, it returns an address in the 70.192.0.0/11 block which ARIN says is owned by Celco/VZW:

Net Range 70.192.0.0 - 70.223.255.255
CIDR 70.192.0.0/11
Name WIRELESSDATANETWORK
Handle NET-70-192-0-0-1
Parent NET70 (NET-70-0-0-0-0)
Net Type Direct Allocation
Origin AS
Organization Cellco Partnership DBA Verizon Wireless (CLLC)
Registration Date 2004-06-10
Last Updated 2012-03-02

As such, MY phone IS being assigned a non-public IP address that is being NATed before it hits the internet, but I would not know that by asking one of those sites what my IP is.
My wife's phone also gets an IP address in the 100.112.x.x range from the "status" page of the phone and a public IPV4 address in the 70.192.0.0/11 range when I hit one of those sites.
Now, is it a 1:1 NAT, or a 1:many NAT? Who knows, but neither of our phones is being assigned a publicly routable IPV4 address.

Aaron Z

 

[/pine]

Unless you are connected through something like a VPN...you have to have a public IP address to receive any requests...(on a public server anyway)...

 

[lostcreekranch]

Cheap $20 a month Stand Alone Unlimited Rural Internet through AT&T Wireless

As far as the AT&T billing goes, in my experience they are changing things and it isn't clear what they are doing. I switched from a Family Share plan to Unlimited PLus in Feb or March and they ended up charging me essentially twice for the same period (this is all before the Mobley was added). Once just before I switched, for what appeared to be a post-paid cycle and then again in a couple weeks when I switched for what appeared to be two weeks of prorated use and another full month cycle. I called multiple times and escalated it repeatedly to try to figure it out. They kept claiming it was post-paid but the timing of the payments, overlap of the proration, cycle dates, etc. indicated it was pre-paid. As expensive as it was, I finally gave up because I just was getting nowhere and the only alternative I would have had would be to get pissed and leave them for another carrier, which I wasn't interested in doing. To ice the cake, when I worked with several reps gathering info before my switch to Unlimited Plus they all provided numbers and assured me my FAN discount would continue to be in effect (the whole thing that initially convinced me to switch was that my bill would actually go down moving to Unlimited Plus because more of the price is in the base plan than on the Family Share plan). Well, they lied about that and the discount does not apply to unlimited plans. So now I pay more. But I stay because the Mobley is a win for me in my rural situation. Still cheaper than my old ISP. So, AT&T you suck like nothing has sucked before. But I'm going to milk you dry with this $20 unlimited Mobley thing as long as I can. And then kick you to the curb.

Rob

They will give a nice discount to Veterans if you switch to the unlimited plan. 15% as I recall. Showed them a copy of my DD-214.

I just switched from the 15 GB Plan and Corporate discount to Unlimited with military veteran discount for my cell and iPad. Haven't got my bill yet since change. I'll let dust settle for a couple of months before adding the Mobley.

 

[ning]

Unless you are connected through something like a VPN...you have to have a public IP address to receive any requests...(on a public server anyway)...

A router which performs NAT (network address translation) doesn't have to talk to you using a public IP address; the router itself needs a public IP address to communicate with the rest of the net, and it handles translation. Note that VPN is not involved with NAT, though NAT is often involved with VPNs.

It's possible to use NAT to translate from public to public addressing, though there's really no point in that; and it's also possible to translate from private to private networks (a little more reason there), but the overwhelming majority of installations use it to use a small number of public IP addresses to handle many more clients.

 

[sodamo]

Good luck with your Veteran discount. Please keep us updated.
When I was looking at the Unlimited plan I was told I would NOT get my military discount. Now, with only 2 phones on a 3gb plan I only get a $6 discount. I was able to go to lower, less expensive data plan due to adding the Mobley. If I need data away from home wifi I can just take the Mobley and plug it into the vehicle. Just got one of those Cobra battery packs but haven't had chance to try as a mobile unit.

 

[cqaigy2]

Port forwarding page on Mobley

 

[buckeyefarmer]

I have ar300 router attached as a modem to the mobley. I cant see my wan ip on the mobley, but when i go into my routers wan setup ( which is assigned a mobley LAN IP) it also shows a GW IP as 10.64.x.x , which indicates the mobley WAN is NAT'd.

 

[MikeInEburg]

For you all who are fighting over public address, perform a simple tracert, and see how many private addresses you get between you and the first public address. For me, there are two private addresses between the WAN side of Mobley and first public address. To quote the infamous Jonathan Fulton: "tracert don't lie, man"

 

[neopheous]

I have a Q-See 4 camera system that I can monitor anywhere from my smartphone hooked up through my Asus router connected to the Mobley. The Nest stuff is over priced and over rated.

Ok good to know. I'll check those out. Thx

 

[buckeyefarmer]

I'm showing mobley wan is still private, but next ip is public AT&T.
used 44GB this month.
Got my home network changed over so it all is running from the mobley now.