Chinese clone engines, the good bad and the ugly

[/pine]

Need me to go again?

Not right now thanks...
...But breaking up your missive(s) into paragraphs will make it/them much easier to read...

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[ace26dan]

thank's for the english lesson,I will do better when my blood pressure goes back down

 

[murphy1244]

Welcome to TBN

 

[ace26dan]

You just don't get it,do ya?

Not right now thanks...
...But breaking up your missive(s) into paragraphs will make it/them much easier to read...

Welcome to TBN...

 

[/pine]

thank's for the english lesson,I will do better when my blood pressure goes back down

Sorry, not meant as a "lesson" just an observation...
A lot of times (and if you stick around long enough you too will see) long, unformatted posts get replied to with much worse than a lesson...a lot of members simply won't bother even reading them (and some will tell you that flat out)...FWIW...

Again...Welcome to a great (and sometimes wild and crazy) forum...in some cases normal BP is a rarity...!

 

[/pine]

You just don't get it,do ya?

I'm curious what it is I don't get?

 

[Iowan]

Someone forgot to take there meds yesterday.

 

[Brad_Blazer]

Welcome to TBN Dan, and thank you for your service.

Thanks for the interesting insight and product review. Some people on here, bless their hearts, think they are so clever in couching their insults as advice that you won't realize they are trolling you. We're not all like that. It's a tractor forum, not a liberal arts essay contest.

 

[BHD]

since this thread resurfaced, I am reporting that the "Kohler courage" Courage SH265, engine I bought has provided to be a good buy, and has ran a good number of hours on the air compressor I put it on,
good starting and running engine.

I did do the fast oil changes as suggested on the first page, by ky billhilly post 18

I read somewhere that someone whom used these regularly would change the oil after an hr, then 2, then 3 until it came out clean and clear which resulted in zero failures of the mechanical sort. A few qts of oil is a cheap investment if it results in longevity.

 

[muddstopper]

I don't like supporting the Chinese either,but in the 60's and 70's,the hippie's and draft dodger's were sure against killing them!,(Viet Nam) if you think the Chinese were not there,wanna buy a bridge? enough politic's,the people that say the chonda's are junk,you might want to check and see where the real "Honda's" are assembled,a lot of American companies have factory's there that have product's made to their spec's,most aftermarket automobile part's are made in china,with stringent spec's, from U.S.companies',same as mexico,Canada etc.,now for my experience with "Chonda's,first I have a 10,000 watt portable generator,dual fuel,15 hp electric start,bought it in 2009,during and after hurricane Katrina we were without power for 9 days,this "chonda" ran our 1800 sq.foot house with out so much as a whimper,a tank of fuel and a 20lb propane bottle was good for two day's,after a re-fuel I would change the oil,hit the starter and it was ready for another two day's,there were times I forgot we were on generator power,I still have it,it still start's first and every time,I keep it in my shop,covered up,bring it out about once a month,crank it up and let it run the a/c in my shop for an hour or so just to give it some exercise,I did have to "excite" it a couple year's ago,but this can be done with a electric drill,just took a volt or two,and it was awake,I have since bought two more 4k "chonda's" one is great the other one flew apart,you chonda basher's excited!,I accidently dropped the governor shaft down in the motor while it was running,I patted myself on the back for that moment of brilliance,when I did an autopsy on the murdered engine,it has the same plastic oil slinger,like everything else,and to my surprise the governor had a very slight bend in it,and the oil slinger was broke in two,but that was all the damage,new governor shaft and slinger,it was resurrected from the "chonda" graveyard,now more politic's,ever bought a toyota,Nissan,Mitsubishi,japenese right?,but they are made in America now,right?,yes, some of them are,where do the profit's go for the sales of these "American" assembled car's,Washington D.C. to use in lieu of our taxes,support our military,nope!,it goes to Japan,the country we leveled in 1945,and re-built them into one of the largest economy's in the world,after WWII,we allowed them to make cheap japnese toy's to send over here,then we taught them how to make cheap transistor radio's and send over here,I played and listened to this stuff as a child,look at them now,ever heard of "Sony,Panasonic,that was our technology,I won't get started on Germany,we support every economy in the world,communist,dictatorship's,extremeist,all of 'em,so don't pick on China by bashing their product's on public forum's, we taught them how to make this stuff,another WWII story,the Chinese were being over run by our long time friend's,Japan,we saved their *** and taught them how to survive and catch up with the rest of the world,they did,they started selling us "chonda's" they aren't going away until the American worker get's off their ***,and does a day's work for a day's pay,until then,we will be using imported product's,like " chonda's",one more thing,look on the collar of your shirt,where was it made? I can tell you,"Viet Nam",where we lost 17,000 American soldier's to create a democracy,no one,not our own country supported us,we were spit on when we came home from a real killing war,some called it a police action,just like Korea,dem-dere po-po was firing real bullet's home boy!

Dan Whiles
United States Army
1970-1976,
Need me to go again?

well I dont know why you chose my post to resurrect a 2year old thread. seems you might have a chip on your shoulder, woke up in a bad mood, or whatever. I was around in the 60's and 70's too. I very well remember Vietnam altho I was still in high school when it ended. I have a uncle that left one leg and his other foot over there. I appreciate your sacrifice and service that allows me the freedom to express my opinions. Which is exactly what I did in the post that you quoted. You dont have to agree with my opinions but dont throw your tantrums at me which is how your post came over to me.

Now there are a few thing in your post I take exception to. For one the part about Toyotas, Nissan, ect being built in america. Certainly you dont know the difference in a assembly plant and a manufacturing facility. Yep, they assemble their cars here, but mostly from Foreign made parts. Those parts are brought into the US thru duty free ports established during the Clinton administration. Nothing new, Ford and Chevy have been getting their parts from overseas for years as well, but the difference is they are not allowed to use those Duty free ports of entry as the foreign car companies do. This gives the Foreign companies a big advantage when it comes to the cost of assembling their products. They get to build their products int their manufacturing facilities in their countries, ship them to the US, without paying import fees, than assemble them in their assembly plants that they are allowed to build ( begged to build would be a better word) in areas that give additional tax breaks, and often on donated lands, and then sell those products in our markets, while protecting profits by sending them to their home country where tax rates are much lower than here in the US.

I stand behind my statement that China steals their technology from US and other country corporations. Its a known fact. We build it, they copy it. Often with patent infringments that china courts refuse to rule against the China companies when taken to court.

I refuse to buy the China clones for the very reason you where fighting in Vietnam, because I believe in supporting The American people, workers and companies instead of sending my money overseas to someone that hates us. You fought with you body, I fight with my pocketbook.

Its not always possible anymore to buy something Made in the USA, so many of our corporations have been forced to move their facilities out of country. A lot of attention is given to this and it seems the media would have us believe its because of cheap labor and corporate greed. While there is some truth to those statements, the biggest single reason is because of the corporate tax rates in the US. Right now corporate taxes rate for US companies is around 40% and is the highest in the world. China is at 25%. Simply moving your company to China will save your corporation 15% in taxes. This far outweights the savings in labor once freight charges for moving your product back to the US market are factored in. Freight cost alone to get your product to market can easily double the cost of your product. Its not a matter of, and I quote you, " they aren't going away until the American worker get's off their ***,and does a day's work for a day's pay,". Plenty of American would love to have a job and work for a living, but our Government has made it all to easy to set on your arsh and draw entitlements and made it all to hard for a corporation to survive in this country.