chinese maybe!!!

[20 20]

Nope, 1 time dealer for about 6 months. Ken Sweet

6 months ???????????? that's not a dealer that's a lawn sale.

 

[keyser soze]

Seems like allmost all of the negative stories about the jinma{chinese} tractors come from the friend of an uncles sisters brother who lives next to ..........

Just a thought, but some may be to embarrassed to admit they bought a chinese mfd tractor.

I know personally I wouldn't buy one, and I wouldn't recommend that anyone buy one. However, there are plenty of people who have gotten along just fine with them (apparently) b/c people continue to buy them in the states.

 

[20 20]

I have to wonder at what % each brand has it's issues? For most owners of jinma's {that I've read about and talked with} I have seen/heard very few problems. Comparing total sales of each individual brand of tractor is Jinma any worse then another? My neighbor up the road bought a brand new NH {real purty machine}50ponys. Within a year it had to go back to the shop, hydraulics quit. Got it fixed and returned, the dealer told him it must have been a friday or monday machine, someone forgot to tighten bolts inside. Another neighbor owns another name brand tractor 2yrs old, one of his 3pt sway arms broke, dealer told him it was made with a weak weld and poor metal. I'm not bashing any tractor just stating some facts that I've come accross, and wondering if %age wise if a jinma is any worse off? With all the material I read up on and now being an owner I'd say NOT!

As far as buying used well that's a whole different ball game. 1st a person would have to have good to excellent mechanical skills then it'd be in their interest to have past maintanance routines. Then if all that is good how much stress has the tractor been under for _____yrs. Metal is just like anything else it does and will get weaker with age. Again I'm not bashing used machines either, I've owned plenty. Just remember when something used is being sold,.,.,.,.,.,.there is a reason, some good, a lot bad.

 

[20 20]

Just a thought, but some may be to embarrassed to admit they bought a chinese mfd tractor.

WHY, why would someone be embarrassed about a bad buy? If anything bad news travels way faster then good. Bad reports hit the news or are talked about at the local dinner way before good. I don't buy into this but maybe you're correct?????

I know personally I wouldn't buy one, and I wouldn't recommend that anyone buy one. However, there are plenty of people who have gotten along just fine with them (apparently) b/c people continue to buy them in the states.

Well now there is a great reason not to buy one. A guy that would never own one or even think/recommend one, is an expert on them Maybe I just got the only tough one in the states{doubt it} or maybe they aren't as bad as all the fairly tails try to make them? I quess I'll be happy with my purchase and the extra money I had for attachments etc. Plus My neighbors that bought their name brands enjoy the fact I have the extra equipment when they need it.

 

[sweettractors]

6 months ???????????? that's not a dealer that's a lawn sale.

It dont take me long to cut my losses and move on. When I seen the battery mounted in front of the radiator in the 284 (blocking air flow and running hot) and a Lube groove not cut on a internal PTO bushing.(PTO jumping out of gear) I knew engineering, QC and design had not got piped in over there yet. Ken Sweet

 

[Soundguy]

Just a thought, but some may be to embarrassed to admit they bought a chinese mfd tractor.

I know personally I wouldn't buy one, and I wouldn't recommend that anyone buy one. However, there are plenty of people who have gotten along just fine with them (apparently) b/c people continue to buy them in the states.

I wouldn't be afraid to buy a chinese tractor, after messing with antiques.. I'd expect to pay economical money though. I sat on my hands too back when the cheap ones were out.. could have got one of those economy ( 184 ? ) jinma 18hp / 2wd for 2000$ at a tool show ( homier show ). basic for sure.. but I can turn a wrench.. missed my chance on that price....

soundguy

 

[20 20]

It dont take me long to cut my losses and move on. When I seen the battery mounted in front of the radiator in the 284 (blocking air flow and running hot) and a Lube groove not cut on a internal PTO bushing.(PTO jumping out of gear) I knew engineering, QC and design had not got piped in over there yet. Ken Sweet

Seems like you'd have checked that out before you became a dealer? I still say 6mths isn't long enough to be a dealer. I understand your opinion, but that doesn't prove the machine isn't any good. Like I've said had mine for 4+yrs now and use it hard, it has not over heated, blown up, ran backwards, slapped my ole lady, taken toys from the kids, or kicked the dog.

How many tractors did you have and how many did you sell? Out of those how many complaints/problems did you get? If any issues how did you go about taking care of them?

 

[20 20]

I wouldn't be afraid to buy a chinese tractor, after messing with antiques.. I'd expect to pay economical money though.

I bought mine brand new in 06, with BH, FEL and taxes, it came to under $13,000. Allthough I don't care for the chinese BH I still feel I got a great deal. I used the BH until I found something better and sold the BH for just over $2,000, after I had moved MUCH dirt.

I sat on my hands too back when the cheap ones were out.. could have got one of those economy ( 184 ? ) jinma 18hp / 2wd for 2000$ at a tool show ( homier show ). basic for sure.. but I can turn a wrench.. missed my chance on that price....

soundguy

For that price you did miss out

 

[psj12]

More and more of the "American" brand CUTS are built in China, India, and Korea.

 

[sweettractors]

More and more of the "American" brand CUTS are built in China, India, and Korea.

Which of the American Tractor brands are made in China? Ken Sweet

 

[studor]

Which of the American Tractor brands are made in China?

Well -- John Deere makes tractors there -- and according to another thread they are the "Cadillac of tractors" -- I don't think there are any "American tractor brands" any more are there?

 

[Dargo]

I think the biggest issue is qc and hand fitting of some parts that should be assembly line ready...

Now.. if you are considering a chinese unit.. you might want to do some research into a domestic antique or classic.

I knocked around the idea for almost 3 years of buying a cheap Chinese tractor to leave at a few hundred acres I have that's about 20 miles from my home. I figured nobody would want to steal it. LOL Unfortunately, almost every single person I talked to, even the ones who wanted to brag on theirs, talked like they needed to work on their tractor before using it. I don't have a shop at my remote property and I am loooooong past having the time or patience of having to fiddle with something every time I want it to work.

I suppose for the right person in the right circumstance, it may be okay. Otherwise, it sounds like it could be a major mistake. I almost bought a Foton from a local Rural King that was a 3 year old left over 70 hp model. It looked absolutely terrible from sitting outside for 3 years and the cab was rusting up something fierce. Even after they were going to take 50% off and throw in a loader they still couldn't get it to run right after changing all the filters and fluids and the A/C wouldn't work and it wouldn't defog the cab glass. It's been a while, the price may be on here somewhere, but I passed at something like $14,500 for a "new" 4X4 cab with a 70 hp Perkins knock-off engine and loader. Not knowing if it was ever going to work right just killed the deal for me. My wife would have killed me for spending that much money on something that always needed something fixed.

I guess it all depends on what you're willing to take on. I felt a lot more comfortable with a used unit of a known quality.

 

[keyser soze]

WHY, why would someone be embarrassed about a bad buy? If anything bad news travels way faster then good. Bad reports hit the news or are talked about at the local dinner way before good. I don't buy into this but maybe you're correct?????



Well now there is a great reason not to buy one. A guy that would never own one or even think/recommend one, is an expert on them Maybe I just got the only tough one in the states{doubt it} or maybe they aren't as bad as all the fairly tails try to make them? I quess I'll be happy with my purchase and the extra money I had for attachments etc. Plus My neighbors that bought their name brands enjoy the fact I have the extra equipment when they need it.

So by your logic, since I have not owned one, I have not been around them enough to know whether I would own one or recommend one? FYI, I've been around them plenty. More than I like. From the import, to the mass distribution, to testing them for hours and hours upon end, to trying to find parts for them. Sorry my credentials aren't good enough for you.

 

[kenmac]

All the OP has to do is go to that thread and read can b-4 he decides

 

[Diamondpilot]

I will jump in here. I bought a Jinma 28HP tractor with a FEL and a King Kutter 5' Finish mower out the door in 2003. The mower was junk and was replaced in 3 years with a Caroni but the tractor has been tough as nails. I just turned 790 hours today while bush hogging. It has been used to push snow, pull wood, dig dirt, pull a 2 bottom plow, ect. It has been a work horse. Only real part that has needed replaced besides the fluids is the battery and the starter. I have broken a few things from abuse but it has amazed me time and time over along with my neighbors.

Chris

 

[20 20]

So by your logic, since I have not owned one, I have not been around them enough to know whether I would own one or recommend one?

well? if the shoe fits....

FYI, I've been around them plenty. More than I like. From the import, to the mass distribution, to testing them for hours and hours upon end, to trying to find parts for them. Sorry my credentials aren't good enough for you.

What are your credentials, I have not seen ANY yet?

Keyboard slaming is like couch potato football playing, a whole lot of NOTHING !!!

I highly doubt you have any experience, just from what you have posted.

 

[20 20]

I will jump in here. I bought a Jinma 28HP tractor with a FEL and a King Kutter 5' Finish mower out the door in 2003. The mower was junk and was replaced in 3 years with a Caroni but the tractor has been tough as nails. I just turned 790 hours today while bush hogging. It has been used to push snow, pull wood, dig dirt, pull a 2 bottom plow, ect. It has been a work horse. Only real part that has needed replaced besides the fluids is the battery and the starter. I have broken a few things from abuse but it has amazed me time and time over along with my neighbors.

Chris

:thumbsup: :drink: :thumbsup: I wondered if/when you would jump in. I don't think any of us that own them would say they're perfect, but could a name brand guy say his is either{check out the name brand threads}. I would say that those that do own them are usually honest and will say they may need TLC every now and then. Of course after owning all types of machinery{name brand= dozers, tractor, tractor trailer, dump truck, excavator, etc...}} over the yrs I would say everything needs TLC every now and then. I still get a kick out of the bashers that have truely never been around one, let alone drove one.

 

[Soundguy]

For that price you did miss out

yep.. I did miss out. I still think about that one. I know it was the non epa engine and all. but heck.. I could have loaded it in the back of the truck .. would have been been fun to play with.

soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

Not having owned one I can't say either way if you have to tinker with them or not. i know on the antiques / classics i own.. once you get them running right.. IE.. fix them right.. they don't need any hand holding. When i want to move hay rounds, I go turnt he gas on on my 1955 ford 850, turn the key, and hit the start button. same for my 54 naa, 55 660, 55 740 and 63 4000, 68 3000 or 75 5000 ( those are the units I currently have regular use for ). As long as the battery is up ( ie.. I've run it in the last few months ).. then they start.. no hand holding.. no didgiting.. just jump on, twist a few knobs and switches and go.

I wouldn't have paind 14K for a non working unit with loader either. I can get a classic ford with loader at that hp for half that money...

soundguy

I knocked around the idea for almost 3 years of buying a cheap Chinese tractor to leave at a few hundred acres I have that's about 20 miles from my home. I figured nobody would want to steal it. LOL Unfortunately, almost every single person I talked to, even the ones who wanted to brag on theirs, talked like they needed to work on their tractor before using it. I don't have a shop at my remote property and I am loooooong past having the time or patience of having to fiddle with something every time I want it to work.

I suppose for the right person in the right circumstance, it may be okay. Otherwise, it sounds like it could be a major mistake. I almost bought a Foton from a local Rural King that was a 3 year old left over 70 hp model. It looked absolutely terrible from sitting outside for 3 years and the cab was rusting up something fierce. Even after they were going to take 50% off and throw in a loader they still couldn't get it to run right after changing all the filters and fluids and the A/C wouldn't work and it wouldn't defog the cab glass. It's been a while, the price may be on here somewhere, but I passed at something like $14,500 for a "new" 4X4 cab with a 70 hp Perkins knock-off engine and loader. Not knowing if it was ever going to work right just killed the deal for me. My wife would have killed me for spending that much money on something that always needed something fixed.

I guess it all depends on what you're willing to take on. I felt a lot more comfortable with a used unit of a known quality.

 

[IH3444]

Just go read the chinese tractor forum, and a few other chinese tractor forums before you purchase one. That way you will have more of an idea of what you are getting into.