Price Check CK20 Price Check

[lamarbur]

This will probably start a war and that is not my intention.. However, I agree that the Kioti U.S. divisional office had to do soemthing to stop confusion, betwwen Kioti tractor and Kioti.com.. What I don't agree with (if the figures posted earlier are accurate) is to pay that particular dealer 200. for his original .com name. I had a military helicopter web site 8 years. Gave it up for a multitude of reasons, but, when I started my site in late 94 early 95, costs to design and maintain a web site were astronomical compared to todays costs. When I gave up my site, actually turning it over to a new group and for nada in monies, I had then, 20 times what Kioti offered this guy. I think it awful that Kioti home office would offer a person 200.00 where they probably have 4500.00 invested. That surely shows no class or support on Kioti's part for a dealer. If I was that dealer and in his shoes, I'd throw Kioti out myself and not speak highly ever again about their products. Again, I do agree they had to stop confusion. I think by the sounds of it, they may have created bigger problems that easily could have been avoided of they were more honest and not sheap about one persons web page.

 

[mgrick]

Confusing it was,I did the same thing as RedDog when I first looked into Kioti tractors,I kept going to the other site.I didn't bookmark it and kept going to the dealers site the first few times.I too am surprised Kioti didn't do something sooner.200.00 seems like a small amount but I don't know anything about that stuff,but there's no doubt the dealer made out through the years with the web name he chose.

 

[shoppintractors]

<font color="blue"> for his original .com name </font>

Original? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

<font color="blue"> were more honest and not sheap about one persons web page</font>

I believe this was a new blanket policy change. Others have spoke about it in this thread. I don't see the signaling out of one persons website. This particular website is on the forfront because it's 'Kioti'. IMO

Don

 

[depratt_equip]

Yes it does cost a lot to create a website! But it doesn't cost hardly anything for a domain name, and to simply change your name to something else is really quite cheap. I had a domain name that had the word Kioti it in. I then changed my domain name to the name of my business, cost me $30. Had them copy all the index files from one domain to the next and put up an explanation on the old domain name site with the link to my new site and the official site. It was quite easy. So i think that 200 is quite enough, and im sure Kioti would have let him leave up his old domain name "kioti.com" for a period of time if the page had a link to his new site and the offical site. I don't know... i guess im the only one that feels this way. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[HayDR]

The www.kiotiparts.com was an ancillary domain name to Kioti USA. The idea was to get the jewel, www.kioti.com so they did not want it to seem as if www.kioti.co was the only thing they wanted. Yes, www.kioti.com caused confusion for Kioti USA but kioti.com was legally purchased and O'Bryan established ownership.
Kiotikountry.com and kiotiparts.com are not the primary targets and would not cause confusion as www.kioti.com. Kioti.com will become the home of Kioti USA and or auto directed to kiotitractor.com. You have said that O'Bryan could keep the site as a dead site and even if he could this would constitute loss of use. Just as if a powerline has a ride-of-way through property they have to purchase those rights from the landowner. Just because other parties settle for lesser amounts does not mean O'Bryan should settle for the same amount.

 

[depratt_equip]

So why should he get more than i should on this, everyone got offered the same amount. There were other sites out there too like www.kioti-tractors.com, and if you go to that you can see what he should have just done. i legally purchased my site too. Anyways that still doesn't have to do with the fact that of what i said. He could have left kioti.com up and had a link to his new site. How hard is that? Kioti didn't make him take the $200 for his site. they offered it. He just had to comply to there new policy. Sure he could have just hung on to the domain name as he does own it, was not forced to sell. We still own ours, we didn't sell it. Anyways this is my last post on this topic, it seems to be getting out of hand. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[shoppintractors]

Whenever you take the name of a corporation as your website, you have to realize, it is a honeymoon type situation. Meaning it won't last forever. At some point in time the corporation is going to want to use that website for the greater good of the company, all it's dealers, and in the end, the consumer. It was a smooth move, even smart of this dealer to be first out of the box to claim the web site. But, it just stands to reason, at some point in time the company would want to use this as their web site. I would consider this dealer fortunate that he was able to use xxxxx.com as long as he did. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail.

Don

 

[JohnnyO]

Seems like the dealer-boys hijacked Neophyte's thread!

 

[JimMc]

LOL /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I reckon this is not the first time. I apologize, Neophyte, for my part it steering this the wrong direction.

 

[HayDR]

It is Kioti's loss not O'Bryan's loss. Maybe Hopewell Enterprises of Canmer,Ky can fill the void that was left when they canceled O'Bryan's. Realize Kioti left all their customers in that O'Bryan trade area without parts and service. One has to wonder just how much Kioti cares about their customers.