ck20hst PTO noise?

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glmf

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please forgive me if this is a well known thing but this is my first time using a 3pt pto driven implement. four foot rotary mower works fine, but when the pto is engaged and I push in the clutch, the pto system clicks like crazy til I move the pto lever to the disengaged. As soon I move the lever to disengage the noise stops, but the mower and shaft take some time to wind down. Everything seems to work well when in use, its just when I quit mowing and want to shut everything down that this occurs, hoping it something normal or simple anyway, thanks
 
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glmf said:
please forgive me if this is a well known thing but this is my first time using a 3pt pto driven implement. four foot rotary mower works fine, but when the pto is engaged and I push in the clutch, the pto system clicks like crazy til I move the pto lever to the disengaged. As soon I move the lever to disengage the noise stops, but the mower and shaft take some time to wind down. Everything seems to work well when in use, its just when I quit mowing and want to shut everything down that this occurs, hoping it something normal or simple anyway, thanks


That's the over ride clutch in the PTO which allows the implement to free wheel and wind down after you disengage the PTO. If it weren't there the implement could break the PTO shaft or some other internal gears, etc. Hope this helps, good luck.
 
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While using my rear mount snowblower, I only use the clutch to engage the rear PTO. To disengage it I just slide the lever to the off position. You don't need the clutch to disengage it.
 
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excellent, thanks guys. Nice to have this resource and helpful members. Hope someday I can help someone out!
 
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I do like DMace, clutch to engage the PTO but when I go to disengage the PTO I lower the throttle setting towards idle and then quickly bump the PTO lever to neutral. I find that backing off the RPMs unloads the gears and allows the PTO to disengage smoothly. Just like in a pickup truck if you shift out of gear while under load it is harder to pull the gears apart.
 
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Sometimes I wonder if the noise is the fork which engages the PTO gear. My machine made the noise too and one day the PTO stopped working. I opened up the PTO case and found the fork had rubbed against the gear and wore itself down to the point where it broke. Fortunately, the big piece remained in the bottom of the case. Boy, was that magnet full of metal flakes :eek:. I replaced the fork, pin, spring, gaskets, all the hyd. fluid & filter. No more noise and everything was fine again.

I also endorse cranking down the RPMs before disengaging and even go so far as to engage at slow speeds and then pick up the RPMs. A fork is a terrible thing to waste (and a PITA to replace). I hate downtime, don't you?
 
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Question for you guys on the PTO disengage, are you guys using gear or HST? Does it make a difference(using/not using clutch to disengage)? I definitely understand, and do run down the rpms prior to disengaging. So far I've only run a PHD on the PTO and having a foot hovering over the clutch is a necessity around here because the auger gets stuck often in the bony soils. There's not much overrun on a PHD, but have been using the clutch to disengage. Sounds like you guys think this is unneeded.
 
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I have a gear and, like you, always used the clutch to disengage. That is, until I read the postings here. It works fine disengaging without the clutch.

When I use my auger, I run it at extremely low RPMs and clear often. I also have a 36" pipe wrench at the ready when (not if) it gets stuck. It's a great little tool but oft times scary. I have a lot of respect for it and exercise a lot of caution using it.
 
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Mine is HST and usually I only lower the rpms to 2400 or so, but only because after disengaging the snowblower I lift it up and drive. Constantly lower and raising the rpms just wouldn't make sense.
 
   / ck20hst PTO noise? #10  
I always use the clutch to disengage. Sometimes I lower the RPM's and sometimes I don't. Never heard anything odd with a rear finish mower, flail or rotary mower. CK30HST
 

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