Dodger, what I ended up doing is cracking the lines on the backhoe, that did it. I want to tell you I spend most of the day on those connections in the heat, not a fun day. Connecting the backhoe to the tractor that took a little more that i was thinking it would. But now I know and next time should be a little easier and faster. Thanks once again for the advice, am off to do some digging. thanks