Class Comparatives

[RFB]

Sirs,

My wife wants a smaller Cab tractor (with HST) with a front mounted snow blower, and to pull a Caroni 59" Flail mower.

All of my knowledge revolves around our L5303HSTC and similar or larger genre.

My first reflex is a Kubota B3030HSDCC (soon to be re-badged as B3000). I have no problem with that make and model if that is "The One", but I do not want to shortchange our knowledge.

Would you folks be so kind as to suggest comparative models from other manufacturers at a similar quality level?

Thank you

 

[Dmace]

If you have a Kioti dealer near you, take a look at the Kioti CK30HST. You can now get all the CK series tractors with a factory cab and if it's anything like the other Kioti cabs then it will be top notch.

The CK30 will certainly be priced competitively or lower compared to the Kubota B3030 plus it has a stronger loader (1,155lbs vs. 1,091lbs), Much higher output hydraulic pump (12.1 gpm vs. 9.1), longer and better warranty, stronger 3pt hitch (1,754lbs vs. 1,300lbs) and a heavier tractor overall (3,142 lbs vs. 1,852lbs).

You can also get the similar Bobcat CT230 which is the same exact tractor (same manufacturer) but has different loader and backhoe attachments.

 

[RFB]

Dmace,

Can you point to a link that shows the cab models. I clicked where you sent me but it just shows the open station.

Thanks for the reply. How do you like yours?

Found another link that says:

"Kioti Tractor’s new cab series is available with the purchase of a new tractor as well as for all vintage CK tractors. All cabs will be professionally installed at your authorized Kioti tractor dealership. Included in this cab package are a built-in rollover protective structure (ROPS); wide, lockable doors; opening front and rear windows; window washer/wiper system; roof-mounted front work lights; side-view mirrors; heater and fan with temperature control; floor mats; dome lights; and an interior comfort package."

It sounds almost like an aftermarket, and no mention of A/C. Do you have additional info?

 

[jdbnh]

Sirs,

My wife wants a smaller Cab tractor (with HST) with a front mounted snow blower, and to pull a Caroni 59" Flail mower.

All of my knowledge revolves around our L5303HSTC and similar or larger genre.

My first reflex is a Kubota B3030HSDCC (soon to be re-badged as B3000). I have no problem with that make and model if that is "The One", but I do not want to shortchange our knowledge.

Would you folks be so kind as to suggest comparative models from other manufacturers at a similar quality level?

Thank you

you gotta check out the new holland cabs, they hae a cvt transmission, awesoem to drive and simple

 

[Dmace]

It's a new option so there is not much info on the website. Honestly, their website is not that great but the low marketing budget is probably one of the reasons they don't cost as much as some other orange and green tractors.

If you go to the main website (KIOTI - run ahead of the pack!) you will see this ad on the front page. That is a CK30 with the factory cab, I don't have any more info on it. That would be better answered by a dealer.

I LOVE my tractor, or else I wouldn't be recommending it.
I bought it brand new in Oct. 2005 and have over 400 hours now with not a second of downtime. It starts everytime I get on it whether it's -20F or 100F and works until I tell it to stop. I am still amazed with the power and what I can do with it as I get more used to it. I will keep it until it dies which I bet will be a LONG time. :thumbsup:
I don't use it as a big lawn mower either, it's basically my excavator:

 

[Grandad4]

Dmace,

Can you point to a link that shows the cab models. I clicked where you sent me but it just shows the open station.

Thanks for the reply. How do you like yours?

Found another link that says:

"Kioti Tractor痴 new cab series is available with the purchase of a new tractor as well as for all vintage CK tractors. All cabs will be professionally installed at your authorized Kioti tractor dealership. Included in this cab package are a built-in rollover protective structure (ROPS); wide, lockable doors; opening front and rear windows; window washer/wiper system; roof-mounted front work lights; side-view mirrors; heater and fan with temperature control; floor mats; dome lights; and an interior comfort package."

It sounds almost like an aftermarket, and no mention of A/C. Do you have additional info?

Kioti had a good display of cab tractors at an ag expo near us recently. They seemed like very nice cabs... comparable to some factory cabs. They were all noted as "dealer installed options". No A/C available, though. If I were shopping and didn't require A/C, they'd definitely be on the list of possibilities.

 

[RFB]

If there is no A/C, that puts it off of the list. We live in a true 4 season area and the winter to summer extremes can be 130 degrees (F): -30 in the winter and 104+ in the summer.

I will be honest and admit that I lean towards Kubota, but I want to retain intellectual integrity and research what is available in this genre.

 

[kf4uda]

I am not going to suggest a brand of tractor but I will suggest comparing dealerships in your area. Sometimes a bad dealership can make you hate a good tractor. To me having a reliable dealer that is trustworthy and fair is more important than brand....Just my two cents.

 

[RFB]

There are no dealerships in "our area".

Everything is distant with the Kubota dealer being the closest and that is 2 hours on a two lane road with no stops signs or lights.

Everything else is beyond that.

 

[CompactTractorFan]

Be sure to look at the John Deere 3320.

 

[RFB]

I just went to the JD site and "built" one with as close a match as possible to the Kubota build site. JD came in at $40,012.00 versus K at $34,472.00. These are of course MSRP and do not reflect what a dealer would do, but it sure places a heckuva head start for the JD dealer to compete against.

I know nothing about that JD product; am I missing something in the price structure?

 

[flusher]

Sirs,

My wife wants a smaller Cab tractor (with HST) with a front mounted snow blower, and to pull a Caroni 59" Flail mower.

All of my knowledge revolves around our L5303HSTC and similar or larger genre.

My first reflex is a Kubota B3030HSDCC (soon to be re-badged as B3000). I have no problem with that make and model if that is "The One", but I do not want to shortchange our knowledge.

Would you folks be so kind as to suggest comparative models from other manufacturers at a similar quality level?

Thank you

Mahindra 5010 HST Cab with HVAC system.

Farm tractors for Ag Farmers, Hobby Farmers - Sub Compact, Compact & Full Size 2WD & 4WD Utility Tractors

My big tractor is a 2008 Mahindra 5525 (54 hp engine, 45 hp pto, 2WD, gear tranny), a big, heavy, powerful brute with the ML250 FEL (6-ft wide bucket, 2950 lb lift to 10.5 ft height). Cast iron frame, sheet metal (not plastic) body.

 

[LAWALLSTRACTOR]

It don't sound like you need to large a tractor and you didn't mention a loader. A TYM T293 Hydro Cab with a 60" Front mount blower, and a loader would be in the $23000 to $25000 range, and it would easily handle your 60" flail mower. Check it out.

 

[charleyfarmall]

You don't need a really big tractor to do what you want, although the bigger tractor may ride better.

I have a Kioti CK27HST and a Caroni 60" flail with hydraulic offset and mow lots of grass with it. It is a great combination. Not an option because you want a cab, and with a cab, if you are in a southerly state, you need A/C. Just the greenhouse effect of my cabs mean I turn on the A/C even when I might need a jacket outside.

I am sure the Kubota would be ok. Check out he Deere 3000 series. They will be priced similarly to the Kubota.

 

[RFB]

Flusher,

This will be my wife's "lawnmower and snowblower"; we already have a Kubota L5030HSTC which is similar to your suggested Mahindra.

LAWALLSTRACTOR,

Yes, I will equip it with a loader. I will examine your TYM suggestion.


charleyfarmall,

We wanted to stay in the B3030 size range for the intended duties. I did check on a JD 3320 and based on the build your own website (only, so dealer may be significantly different), it came in significantly higher than a similar equipped B3030.



It seems like a factory cabbed tractor in that size range is a niche market.

 

[BleedGreen]

I just went to the JD site and "built" one with as close a match as possible to the Kubota build site. JD came in at $40,012.00 versus K at $34,472.00. These are of course MSRP and do not reflect what a dealer would do, but it sure places a heckuva head start for the JD dealer to compete against.

I know nothing about that JD product; am I missing something in the price structure?

The B3030 (B3000) would be physically comparable to the JD 2720 - but JD does not offer a factory cab so you have to go up to the 3320. You are now comparing oranges and green apples... The B3030 is what we would call a "small-frame" compact while the 3320 would be a "mid-frame" compact. The 3x20 series Deere usually would compete with the Grand L Kubotas. I hope that helps explain some of the price difference. If you compared the Grand L to the 3x20 series they would be much closer.