Clearing Logging Debris

   / Clearing Logging Debris #21  
Mac, I guess we as land owners would be responsible if the fires were to get out of control but I am not really sure. We were using a forester that my Father in Law has used for years and doing it how and when he said the time was right. I’ll have to ask and see what kind of insurance the forester carries. When the state forester came and looked at my land I ask about responsibly and was told it would not be a problem if we did it their way. I know, that isn’t a very definitive answer.

In the burn I was involved with it is hard to imagine the fire getting away. Conditions were damp with little wind; the fuel was slash that had been on the ground for a couple of years and new growth less than waist high. The property was logged 60% with the remaining 40% of trees left being mostly mature pine that is too big to get started with the small fire line we were running. We have 10 foot wide fence line roads around the property that were cleaned up with a dozer to serve as a fire break before the burn. I believe that proper timing is the key and also why we hired a pro to say when that was.

EastTexFrank, there are a few things you want to check on and see how they work in your area. Here you can contact loggers directly and get a price for the timber or use a forester to evaluate the timber, sell it and negotiate the logging contract. We were not clear cutting so the forester evaluated the timber stand for quality and quantity, marked all the trees that were to be left, marked the boundaries of the cut, shopped the best price from the buying mills, hired a logging crew and set up the contract and conditions with the logging crew. Of course he also takes a percentage off the top of the sale. Some feel that percentage is partly off set by the forester getting a better price for the timber than an inexperienced seller working directly with a logger.

Like everything there are good and bad loggers. There are many stories of loggers draining hundreds of gallons of hydraulic fluid on the land, leaving skidder tires for you to deal with, grabbing a few extra trees from the neighboring property, destroying fences and access roads, among other things. The biggest thing I hear is the land owner thinking the logger agreed to clean up and the logger has a different definition of clean. There is a good amount of money involved when logging 60 acres so be sure to have a real good legal contract defining everything to be done very clearly.

I would also suggest you talk to your tax consultant before you log. The profits from logging are handled differently than other capital gains in our state and they get you pretty good. You may be able to have the logging and clean up done under one contract so you show less capital gains.

MarkV
 
   / Clearing Logging Debris #23  
Would this attachment be helpful <font color="blue"> </font>

Based on a similar situation I have with damage from hurricane Ivan last year - I decided it would be and just ordered a RBG72 from WR Long

Trying to move logs and brush with a bucket requires alot of extra effort and/or people to hook up chains - especially if the area the debris is located in is not clear or level

My NH dealer also highly recommended WR Long. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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That is one mean looking attachment! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Where are you located in Georgia?

What was the drive out price for the root-rake/grapple? Will WR Long sell to the general public or did you go through a dealer?

How about some action photos?!
 
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Where are you located in Georgia? Alpharetta

What was the drive out price for the root-rake/grapple? The price for the RBG72 is appx. $2100 plus freight - your price may vary depending on whether or not you will need to add addl. valves / controls - My TN is already set up with a pair of rear remotes, so I will have a set of hoses with quick connects made up to use to openand close the jaws.

Will WR Long sell to the general public or did you go through a dealer? WR Long only sells thru dealers

How about some action photos?! Most of WR Long's products are made to order, so LT on my RBG72 is appx. 3 weeks - 3 LONG weeks /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

As soon as I get it I will try to post photos. Several other members here have purchased this grapple - do a search for WR Long and you can see some of their pics /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
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forgot,,,click on the link at the bottom of the post for a bunch of pics of our burn project. We are in the midst of clearing 60 acres in East Ga.
 
   / Clearing Logging Debris #28  
Matt - I have a somewhat similar situation cleaning up slash. I move slowly with the bucket skimming the ground, then grab it with the Bolt-on grapple after I push up a bunch and move it to where I'm pileing it to burn later. Can't add anything to the many good suggestions already given, but will post a few pics to show slash situation and Grapple being used to pile poles.
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Grappple pileing poles/logs.
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Pileing poles
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