Colorado Man Killed In Large Wood Chipper

   / Colorado Man Killed In Large Wood Chipper #31  
The machines you guys have been talking about on this thread make my pto-driven chipper/shredder (which only handles branches up to about 5") look like a tinker toy.

However, even it could make short work of anyone careless enough to let himself get "in harm's way."

One of the reasons that I bought it, over various power-feed alternatives, was that the lowest hopper lip is over 4' above ground, the hopper feeds downwards at a 45deg angle and is so large that even if you were dumb enough to reach into it when running, you couldn't get even your finger tips anywhere close to the flywheel (blades) unless you were the size of Wilt Chamberlain.

The other nice thing about its design is that you are out of the line of ejection of any debris, which will be thrown up and out (and thus over and beyond you), unless you are dumb enough to be looking into the hopper while operating.

BTW, even on my machine, the flywheel (which is about 30" diam and consists of 2 1/2" plates with flail blades in between and knives on the hopper side of the one next to the hopper and has got to weigh a couple of 100#) takes 3-4 min to spin down. Chippers and PHD's are, I think, about the most dangerous attachments that "amateurs" like me get to use. I couldn't agree more that they, and everything else that we use, deserves maximum care and respect.

I have made a career out of being ultra-cautious (some would say "chickens**t' /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif ) about a lot of things that lots of folks consider dangerous; including high altitude mountaineering, scuba diving and single engine aircraft. I don't think that any of it is unreasonably dangerous so long as you understand the hazards and guard against them as much as possible.

Mountaineers divide hazards into two types, "objective and "subjective." The objective hazards are the ones that are beyond your control: sudden storms, avalanches, rockfall, the collapse of snowbridges over glacier cravasses and falling seracs, etc. You can try to avoid them but you can't control or eliminate them. The subjective hazards are controllable by climbers; failure to follow established protection procedures or maintain or inspect equipment, pressing on into deteriorating weather, travel at more dangerous times of day, are all just as suicidal as playing russian roulette.

Mountaineering is not unreasonably dangerous if you eliminate the subjective hazards and try to avoid the objective ones. ...but I guess I agree with you, John, no matter how careful you are, things can still go fatally wrong, through no real fault of your own, just like in your work. As you say, "be careful out there" and hope that fate doesn't have your number.

Bill, its nice to hear from you again. I haven't seen any posts of yours in a while and had been wondering if all was well with you. Happy New Year.
 
   / Colorado Man Killed In Large Wood Chipper #32  
Bill - that was a great post, you really got me thinking. I'm going to make an extra effort to stay out of harm's way, and use the safety bar much more in the fashion you stated - as an air bag, not as brakes. Good stuff, for all I know you might have just saved my life. Thanks man! See why everyone wishes you'd come around more often? Brains, humor and a great personality, what a combo! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif (Sorry ladies, he's already married). hehe

MadDog, that was a great post too! I really liked the subjective/objective observation - I'll work harder on minimizing the subjective errors and avoiding the objective hazards. And I admire your guts, which mountaineering takes a LOT of. I'm sure you've seen "Vertical Limit" - that opening scene is gut-wrenching, to say the least. I have friends who do rock climbing, and when they ask me if I want to climb with them on the weekend, I just smile and say "No thanks - I do enough climbing during the week." /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

******

I'll end with a favorite quote of my Dad's - "Safety regulations are written in blood". Let's not spill any of ours. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
   / Colorado Man Killed In Large Wood Chipper #33  
Thanks, John. BTW, I noticed that you are also on the Arboristsite.com site, which I recently discovered in connection with my efforts to learn more about using my chipper and chainsaws and possibly building a splitter (I also recently took up welding).

From having read a # of your posts, I suspect that you would agree that when we stop being interested in learning new things, that's when life is winding down.
 
   / Colorado Man Killed In Large Wood Chipper #34  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( From having read a # of your posts, I suspect that you would agree that when we stop being interested in learning new things, that's when life is winding down.)</font>

Amen to that. I recently made a post aboutting a new chain saw and John was kind enough to send me a PM with additional information, cautions, expectations, proper usage, safety etc. etc. Then he referred me to several other posts he had participated in on the subject.

Learned a helluvalot!

It was like reading a novel...I must have stayed up to 2:00 AM last night because it was so interesting. Of course, he's got me conviced to spend about twice what I intended, but all for good reason. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Anyway, my 2 cents worth.
 
   / Colorado Man Killed In Large Wood Chipper #35  
3RRL: I think I remember that one. Didn't you end up buying from Norwalk Power Equipment, where I bought my Husky 357XP?

Sometimes I have trouble remembering, with respect to logging info, whether I got it here or on Arboristsite.com, which is also a goldmine of useful info and occasional smarta$$ fun.
 
   / Colorado Man Killed In Large Wood Chipper #36  
MadDog,

No, you're right ...it was on rural living, this site.
I have not gone there yet. I have to wait for an adjuster to come by to asses the damage from a giant limb falling off a Eucaliptus tree. It smashed one of my metal garden sheds about 3/4 down...can't open the front roll-up door now.

But yes, that's where I'm probably going to go to buy it. CT Treeguy has convinced me to go with that 357XP like you got. Geez...more money again. Well, I'll check them all out when I go there and buy one maybe this weekend.

Interesting thought though...
I've seen some great deals on the internet as well. I contacted Norwalk and they will honor the guarantee warranty for any new sawbrand they carry. I have to pay sales tax if I buy here and the shipping from an internet purchase is less than the tax. I thought about bidding on eBay for one to keep the price down and maybe get lucky. I saw a brand new 350e go for $257 with free shipping. Now I'm looking if the XP models might go for less too?

But nevertheless, I'm still going down to Norwalk to see the saws in person and handle them. That will give me a better appreciation for their size and weight too.

Last, smarta$$ fun...
There's plenty of that here too. Some of those guys like CT Treeguy and Highbeam are halarious. They should be on TV! I know they don't work because they're on every post with some entertaining (and helpful) comments all the time. John must have a laptop strapped to one of those big Stihls he has and Highbeam on his Lincon 225 /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

You know, it would be great fun to meet all you guys one day. Maybe Muhammed can arrange a "Reunion" day or something for all of us to get together and meet? Ha! Ha!...Can you imagine THAT?
 
   / Colorado Man Killed In Large Wood Chipper #37  
Ooops,
Sorry guys, got WAY off track here...didn't mean any disrespect to the original thread.
 
   / Colorado Man Killed In Large Wood Chipper #38  
Me neither. ...poor guy. About the only thing merciful about it was that he didn't suffer long. I feel for him and his family, too.

BTW, I was concerned, before I tried it, that the weight of a "pro" saw would be more than I could handle comfortably after years of using a small Homelite. But I've been very comfortable with the 357XP for 3-4hours at a stretch.
 
   / Colorado Man Killed In Large Wood Chipper #39  
<font color="blue">Sorry guys, got WAY off track here...didn't mean any disrespect to the original thread. </font>

<font color="blue">Me neither. ...poor guy. About the only thing merciful about it was that he didn't suffer long. I feel for him and his family, too. </font>

No worries guys, we all have a tendancy to put things like this out of our minds. There are so many unpleasant things going on in the world that I think we tend to "shut down" a little, either consciously or subconsciously, to keep from going crazy.

That said, here is a link to an obituary for Brian G. Morse, from his hometown paper, the Loveland (CO) Herald-Gazette. He sure looks like a great guy.

Brian G. Morse's Obituary

I just talked to a guy named John at the Stihl dealership in Loveland, who knew him. He described him as a "very mellow, easy-going guy".

I asked John for Brian's home address, in case any of you guys want to join me in sending his family a note of condolence, and maybe some financial support:

The Family of Brian G. Morse
3820 Verbo Rd.
Loveland, CO 80538

and/or:

"In honor of his late mother Roberta, memorial contributions can be made to the Arthritis Foundation, in care of the Kibbey-Fishburn Funeral Home, 1102 N. Lincoln Ave., Loveland, CO 80537."

Rest in peace Brian, you will always be remembered, and your death will almost undoubtedly save the lives of others. If there is such a thing as dying well, I believe you have done so. Thank you for your sacrifice.

And if there is such as thing as living well, it seems that you did that as well.

"He was a kind, honest and thrifty man who loved life and the outdoors".

May we all live as well. Peace.
 
   / Colorado Man Killed In Large Wood Chipper #40  
This type of accident makes you wonder whether it would be possible to engineer some new fangled safety device to prevent any human material from entering a chipper. Why not have an infrared detector at the entrance to the chute. Anything warm would set it off and activate some type of emergency brake.
 

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