Common to have to re-touch paint on new attachments?

[s219]

Powder coat done right will not chip off at all. I shot motorcycle frames for years with powder and have yet to have one chip. It is not a cheap process to do right either. The question is "Are you willing to pay for it".

That's not the issue to me (although it is important to the initial quality for sure). The issue with PC is that once it gets damaged and the underlying base metal is exposed and corrosion starts, the PC actually makes it worse and then will start coming off in sheets as the corrosion gets underneath. I have seen this with steel tractor implements and aluminum boat structures like t-tops and seat frames. When I talked about this with a manufacturer at an equipment show once, he explained how paint performs better in this regard, both because of the way that it sticks to the metal and, more importantly, because they can put rust inhibitors and other things in paint that you just can't do with powder.

If you really want to see PC fail epically, take a look at a boat operating in saltwater with PC on some of the structures (which is PC over anodized aluminum). If you don't immediately touch up chips, it's off to the races as corrosion works under the PC. Bare anodized aluminum does not have that problem despite being the same exact stuff.

 

[MossRoad]

This is pretty much the same thing that happened a couple weeks ago....

He said, she said, only the two parties know what's actually been said between them and they should settle it out in private.

 

[murph1]

That's not the issue to me (although it is important to the initial quality for sure). The issue with PC is that once it gets damaged and the underlying base metal is exposed and corrosion starts, the PC actually makes it worse and then will start coming off in sheets as the corrosion gets underneath. I have seen this with steel tractor implements and aluminum boat structures like t-tops and seat frames. When I talked about this with a manufacturer at an equipment show once, he explained how paint performs better in this regard, both because of the way that it sticks to the metal and, more importantly, because they can put rust inhibitors and other things in paint that you just can't do with powder.

If you really want to see PC fail epically, take a look at a boat operating in saltwater with PC on some of the structures (which is PC over anodized aluminum). If you don't immediately touch up chips, it's off to the races as corrosion works under the PC. Bare anodized aluminum does not have that problem despite being the same exact stuff.

If it comes off in sheets it was not done right.

 

[jenkinsph]

If it comes off in sheets it was not done right.

Pretty much my thoughts^^^
I have had Craftsman roll away tool chests with powder coat with sheets falling off. I have had truck frames and iron fencing sent to a buddy in the powder coat business and it has held up very well for 15 years now. Powder coat needs to be done correctly or is a waste of money.

 

[Creamer]

That's not the issue to me (although it is important to the initial quality for sure). The issue with PC is that once it gets damaged and the underlying base metal is exposed and corrosion starts, the PC actually makes it worse and then will start coming off in sheets as the corrosion gets underneath. I have seen this with steel tractor implements and aluminum boat structures like t-tops and seat frames. When I talked about this with a manufacturer at an equipment show once, he explained how paint performs better in this regard, both because of the way that it sticks to the metal and, more importantly, because they can put rust inhibitors and other things in paint that you just can't do with powder.

If you really want to see PC fail epically, take a look at a boat operating in saltwater with PC on some of the structures (which is PC over anodized aluminum). If you don't immediately touch up chips, it's off to the races as corrosion works under the PC. Bare anodized aluminum does not have that problem despite being the same exact stuff.

Anodized aluminum is a porous surface - not a good powder coat base. That is the issue. Powder coat can stick to metal just as well as paint - if it was done right. There are a lot of powder coaters that are not that good and it is a process that needs to be done right.

 

[kloudbuster]

Sad. The one thing I keep seeing here is that we should accept crap, sloppy shipping work. No wonder the the rest of the world is passing us bye. It's alright for crappy worker to screw things up. America today no pride.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I know of a popular make of snow pusher that lost it's paint the first time it was used.

Out JD arrived all scratched and chipped on the axles from being chained down. I wasn't happy about it, but castings are easy to touch up.

My brand new 2000 Dakota had the rad fins pressed in from someone standing on the bumper with the hood open. That and a screw had somehow popped up in the hood. They offered to paint the hood, but I didn't want a brand new truck with a repainted hood. I made them sign something saying they would repaint it later if the damaged area got worse.

Such an imperfect world!

 

[s219]

I agree with some of the points made about powder coat being done right. But PC has no ability to stop the natural corrosion process of metal, whether it's steel or aluminum. I don't care what's on top of the metal, when the metal starts corroding the coating on top of the metal is going to come off.

Nobody will ever convince me that PC can magically stick to steel that is rusting under the PC. And not only can PC not inhibit the rust like a good primer/paint, it will make the problem worse by trapping moisture. I have seen it happen too many times, and it's got nothing to do with how well the PC was applied. It simply cannot hang on to metal that is rusting. This is why I think it's a poor choice for tractor implements that will take abuse and get chipped up and rusted. Any PC implements I have owned did far worse in this regard than paint.